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Your operational interview process is probably too easy. If everyone passes, you're not learning who can actually do the job.

We give candidates 12 minutes, an incomplete file, and a real crisis. The ones who ask smart questions? A-players. The ones who complain? Bucket dippers.

Learn this scenario-based interview system we use to test attorneys under real pressure before a bad hire costs you six figures.

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0:00 - Operational Interview Process: Why Culture Fit Isn't Enough

1:45 - The 4:15 Friday Scenario That Reveals Real Performance

4:00 - Why Your Working Interview Should Be "Built to Fail"

6:50 - Bucket Dippers vs. Bucket Fillers: What Stress Reveals

9:48 - Designing Interview Gaps That Identify A-Players

11:48 - Scaling Interview Complexity by Role Seniority

13:48 - The Six-Figure Cost of Skipping Candidate Evaluation

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Lawyer to business owner—that shift changed everything for Alex. Here's why working less actually made him more money.

If you're stuck doing everything yourself, Alex's 3-box test shows you what to delegate, automate, or just eliminate. You’ll also realize why 80% good enough beats perfection, and how to stop being a worker bee in your own firm.

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0:00 - Law Firm Delegation: From Worker Bee to Business Leader

1:18 - Alex's Journey: Immigrant to 27-Person Firm Owner

5:36 - The 3-Box Test: Love It, Great At It, Makes Money

6:22 - Delegate, Automate, or Eliminate Framework

7:17 - Why 80% Good Enough Unlocks Law Firm Growth

14:59 - Law Firm Exit Planning: Don't Flush Your Goodwill

18:59 - Understanding Clients on a Cellular Level

21:47 - The Road Less Stupid: Where Are You Really?

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This is the 30-minute Culture Interview that will save you from 6 months of pain. Here's our exact process.

Law firm culture fit isn't guesswork. Most firms interview for skill and hope will follows. We screen culture first—saves your team from hires who look great but blow up in 90 days.

Skill vs. will change everything. This episode covers our 5-point culture screening framework. You're looking for disqualifications, not qualifications.

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📄 CHAPTERS

0:00 - Law Firm Culture Fit: The 30-Minute Interview That Changes Everything

1:15 - Why Culture Screening Comes Before Skills Assessment

2:11 - Skill vs. Will: The Framework Most Law Firms Miss Completely

2:53 - Using Core Values as Your First Hiring Filter

4:28 - Red Flags in Culture Interviews: Non-Negotiables That End Conversations Fast

16:22 - "Embrace and Drive Change": Testing for Long-Term Team Fit

19:20 - How to Design Interview Questions Candidates Can't Game

21:27 - Reading Nonverbals: What Their Setup Tells You About Client Interactions

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Law firm owner mindset isn't something they teach in law school. Deidra went from homeless to running a thriving family law firm.

Pretty wild how she got there. After leaving a big firm and spending three years in seminary school (yeah, she thought she'd become a pastor), nobody would hire her back. So she did what any law firm entrepreneur with the right mindset would do—she sat in courtrooms every single day with a notebook, relearning how to litigate from scratch.

Deidra then started her firm on $60K in public defender contracts. She hired before she felt ready and paid herself less than her first associate. That's the law firm owner mindset shift most of us miss completely.

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0:00 - Law Firm Owner Mindset: From Homeless to Thriving Practice

2:10 - Why She Built a Fathers Rights Niche (Personal Story)

3:48 - Leaving Law for Seminary: The Unexpected Detour

5:00 - The Notebook Strategy: Relearning Law From Scratch

16:05 - First Hire When Income Was Zero: The Sacrifice Play

17:33 - High School Dropout to Attorney: The Full Backstory

20:01 - LSAT Score of 121: How She Still Got Into Law School

22:40 - "Tell Me I Can't": The Mindset That Built Everything

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Your law firm job posting is a sales letter, not an HR checkbox. Here's how to write one that actually attracts legal talent.

Most firms can't scale because they can't hire. We'll show you the system we used to build a 27-attorney team at Sterling Lawyers.

Rocket Clicks helped Sterling grow from $0 to $17MM using these exact hiring frameworks.

Job boards are basically Google from 1997, dumb search engines that are easy to hack if you're intentional. We'll walk you through the "Frank Test," why your state bar board might outperform Indeed, and how to write job descriptions that repel wrong-fit applicants before they waste your time.

Stop treating hiring like an HR task and start treating it like the sales function it actually is.

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0:00 - Why Your Law Firm Job Posting Gets Ignored

2:08 - Choosing the Right Job Boards: Niche vs. Volume Play

4:07 - State Bar Websites: The Hidden Talent Goldmine

7:10 - Law School Job Fairs: Your Unfair Advantage

7:49 - Recruiting Is Sales: Change Your Mindset

8:26 - Writing Job Titles That Stop the Scroll

11:03 - Responsibilities That Sell the Role

15:04 - Keywords: Hack Job Board Search Engines

18:20 - Culture Fit: Attract and Repel on Purpose

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Are you frustrated with your law firm close rate? Tom just signed 5 of 7 consults last month. One change is driving those numbers.

We're tracking Tom's real numbers monthly as he scales his Long Island solo practice. No theory here, just what's working and what isn't.

Most attorneys default to Zoom because it's convenient. But Tom's 71% close rate comes from doing the opposite—showing up in person.

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0:00 - Law Firm Close Rate: Why Tom's Numbers Matter

0:56 - September Revenue Breakdown: $19.8K as a Solo

2:14 - The 71% Close Rate: 5 of 7 Consults Signed

3:49 - Why In-Person Consultations Convert Better

5:01 - Picking Your Second Office Location Strategically

5:22 - Hiring Your First Associate: What She's Looking For

8:03 - Quality of Life vs Salary: The Trade-Off That Works

12:40 - AI and Legal Marketing: What's Actually Happening

18:46 - How AI is Cutting Patent Fees in Half

20:25 - Clients Showing Up With ChatGPT Documents

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Stop drowning in 200+ applications. This framework defines your criteria, leverages AI, and gets your team screening without you.

Here's the 4-step system we built to filter 50% of applicants quickly. We break down the exact law firm hiring process we use: criteria definition, tech filtering, red flag hunting, and strategic reference checks.

We even talk through using ChatGPT as your applicant tracking system if you don't have one yet. Plus, I dropped my reference check strategy that completely changed how we vet candidates. Real recruitment tips that scale.

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0:00 - Law Firm Resume Screening: Stop Wandering Into the Process

1:49 - Define Your Screening Criteria Before a Single Application Hits

2:26 - The 50% Rule: Eliminating Applicants Who Don't Pass the Sniff Test

3:38 - The Apprenticeship Square: Training Your Team to Screen for You

5:10 - Using AI and Applicant Tracking Systems to Batch Process

6:20 - How to Train a ChatGPT Agent When You Don't Have Full ATS

17:25 - Resume Red Flags: Job Hopping, Bad Formatting, and Applying Up

19:25 - The Reference Hack: Asking for Specific Supervisors by Name

21:58 - Disqualify Don't Qualify: The Mindset Shift That Saves Hours

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Law firm differentiation strategy is everything. Look like every other divorce attorney? You're just another option to them.

Matt built a 15-person firm by going beyond legal work. While most firms compete on price or SEO rankings, he added a divorce coach to help clients transition, not just get paperwork. That's real differentiation that clients actually feel.

He also figured out how to scale a family law practice without drowning in overhead. Cloud systems. Contract paralegals working 15-25 hours based on caseload. No massive salary commitments until the revenue justified it.

The result? A family law firm branding strategy that nobody in Minneapolis can copy.

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📄 CHAPTERS

0:00 - Law Firm Differentiation Strategy: Why "Good Legal Work" Isn't Enough

1:22 - Meet Matt Ludt: From Solo Practice to 15-Person Family Law Firm

2:03 - The Niche Decision: Why He Dropped Everything But Family Law

5:34 - Cloud Technology and Scaling Without Full-Time Hires

13:16 - Credibility Plus Visibility Equals Profitability

15:40 - The Recognition: Clients Need More Than a Divorce Decree

17:37 - Adding a Divorce Coach: The Differentiation Move Nobody Expected

19:41 - Stealing Ideas From TV Shows to Build Your Law Firm Brand

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