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  • Your Offer, Your Path Forward | PDR Life Podcast Ep. 10
    Oct 13 2026
    Episode 10 of 10 · approx. 16 minutes · Host: Gene Fetty 00:00 The final episode If the last nine episodes gave you an honest look at becoming a PDR tech, the podcast did its job. Whatever you decide — PDR or not — go all in. That's what it takes to get the PDR life. 00:50 This season The money, the tools, every training option from DIY to immersion plus apprenticeship, Mack's progress and competition results, and resources from Gene and his friends in the training world. 02:20 Why Gene stayed out of beginner training Teaching may be Gene's calling, and people he respects kept telling him to teach beginners. He pushed back: much of beginner training feels like a money grab, he refused to go partway in, and running a repair business, he couldn't shut down for four to eight weeks of full-time beginner classes. Meanwhile: glue pull training for hundreds of auto shops (well over a thousand techs), advanced glue pull and push training, business, sales and marketing training, and a 20 Group he and MeLissa run for business owners. He didn't have a beginner product good enough and different enough — until now. 04:20 The PDR Success Academy Gene's new program, launching (or launched, depending on when you listen). 05:00 The problem with six weeks away Gene still believes six weeks of immersion, then an apprenticeship, is the fastest track. But it's a big ask. Few adults can put life on hold for six weeks and spend tens of thousands of dollars. Average household bills don't stop while you're gone for a month and a half or two. 07:00 Built for the all-in learner The question Gene asked: for people who want to go all in but can't pause life, what could he build to set them up to succeed? His answer is a completely different approach to learning PDR — as far as he knows, unlike anything else available. 07:40 The keys to success Accountability and metal time. In-person, over-the-shoulder instruction. The right tools. And somewhere to turn — not if, but when — you hit a roadblock. Gene thinks that last one may matter more than the immersion itself. 08:30 Six weeks isn't enough on its own Even the best six- or eight-week program isn't long enough to become proficient, and most instructors will tell you to keep practicing at home. You need a longer series of sessions. 09:40 Drinking from a fire hose Short events can teach the theory — Gene could cover it over a long lunch. Putting it into practice is another story. Even in his glue pull trainings (with KECO and independently), people forget a lot without reinforcement — and that's experienced body techs learning a new method. PDR is a brand-new, highly detailed skill that changes your body, eyes and brain. After a long session, you're overloaded, and in the first 30 days home you start to slip (see episode 6). 11:00 Who it's for Not for testing the waters — go get online training for that. It's for people who want to go all in, would choose boutique training, but can't pause life that long. 11:30 How it works A six-month commitment. Gene works with you week in and week out. Hybrid: in-person plus online — and online means you and Gene, eye to camera, working on exactly what you need, not just watching videos. When you hit a roadblock — a dent you can't figure out, a flaw you keep leaving — you have access to Gene for all six months. 13:00 In person, in bite-sized chunks It starts with a three-day deep dive into fundamentals, plus homework, skills and drills. Then, between virtual sessions and new drills, you come back for two-day sessions on Friday and Saturday — built for working professionals, so you miss one day of work and head home Saturday evening. Over six months, you build from the smallest dents to complex dents, with Gene by your side. 14:20 Out and billing Gene had Mack out and billing within six months. His goal is to have Academy students out on their own and billing by the end of six months — with full commitment. Not for someone just thinking about PDR, or looking for a side gig. full commitment, and the blog notes that results depend on the work you put in. You passed on the earnings disclaimer earlier, so this is your call. This one is closer to a guarantee than anything else in the series, so it's worth a second look before launch. 15:00 How to apply It's not a buy-now. When enrollment is open, you book a consultation call. Gene wants to make sure you're a fit and fully committed, because he's fully committed to teaching you. Fill out the form at pdrsuccessacademy.com and Gene will be in touch personally.
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    17 min
  • The Gateway Conversation w/ Mike Sewald | PDR Life Podcast Ep. 9
    Oct 13 2026
    Episode 9 of 10 · approx. 48 minutes · Host: Gene Fetty · Guest: Mike Sewald, Gateway Dent 00:00 Episode 9 After covering every training option in episode 8, Gene says the best way to learn is full immersion, and the best company doing it today is Gateway Dent. Teaser: Mike changes Gene's mind on the best way to learn PDR. 01:40 At Gateway Dent "Live in St. Louis" — about an hour away. Gene spent the day there and taught Mike's class a glue pull session. 02:50 Apprenticeship vs. immersion Gene's starting opinion: a true apprenticeship under a master is the best way to learn, and total immersion is second. Gateway: six weeks, five days a week, about eight hours a day — roughly 240 hours, out of your element and in theirs. Gene knows several people who sent sons, family and friends to Mike and got them back fixing damage to billable levels. 04:50 Mike's start Mike was a police chief earning a small salary. A friend went to work for Dent Wizard and made $74,000 his first year, then got Mike an interview. Hired in 1993 and sent to run routes in southern New York and Connecticut. 05:50 Becoming a trainer Mike moved to Virginia Beach, chased hail, and worked in Canada for a while. When asked what he really wanted to do, he said teach. A reference got him a trainer interview in St. Louis. He started late 1995 and taught for Dent Wizard for 10 years. 07:00 Pioneer days Back then it was PDR vs. body shops, not tech vs. tech, so prices were good. Techs were taught they could only fix a quarter-size dent and a one-inch crease. They kept asking "why not bigger?" and grew the trade. Today's tools and glue are unbelievable by comparison. 08:10 Thousands of careers At one point there were four trainers, and two trainers handled 30 students each — 60 techs every three months. Gene's math: about 240 a year, likely a couple thousand careers over Mike's time there. 09:00 Starting Gateway Dent Once Dent Wizard bought back its franchises, which had paid per student, the senior trainers became an expense rather than a profit center. Mike saw the writing on the wall. 10:00 A curriculum built from the field At Dent Wizard, Mike wrote lectures within company guidelines. Teaching advanced classes, he asked returning techs what new techniques and tools they used, and much of what he teaches now came from the field. He's been teaching on his own for close to 20 years. 11:20 Who succeeds Number one: research, and come in hungry. It's a lifestyle, not a job. The best students are energetic and eager to get into the field. Mike turns away a lot of people whose parents want them to learn a trade when they aren't convinced. Skin in the game: pay for your own training. If a company sends someone, Mike encourages the trainee to pay and be reimbursed over a couple of years. They try harder. 14:30 Do your research Talk to dent techs (most people know one), use social media and podcasts like this one, and call other instructors too. You need 100% faith in your instructor. People who pick a two-week class because they can't do six often come back to Gateway later — and spend two years saving up again. Gene: buy once, cry once. 16:20 Physical traits Vision isn't the gatekeeper it was once said to be — Gene has worn contacts his whole career. Women do some of the best. The information matters more than the hands-on work; women often give Mike's lectures back word for word. They overcome the strength gap with leverage and longer tools. Determination matters more than anything. 18:30 Determination plus information Gene calls it obsession. Mike adds: you need the right information to point that energy at. 19:30 Why not just videos Videos may hold good information, but students forget it and are doing the wrong thing two minutes later, with nobody to correct them. 20:30 Mentorship after training The grads Gene knows who came home billing all had someone mentoring them. Mike almost won't take a student who doesn't have a mentor lined up afterward. Going straight out on your own is really hard. Gene's point from a talk with Keith Cosentino: move the same dent one inch and it's a different world. That's the fun for veterans and the struggle for new techs. 22:40 Week one No pushing the first couple of days. Students learn to set up and read the light, describe the dent, point to and dot the center, and position the light to see center and depth. Then walk the tip to center and work outward in spirals. Homework in weeks one and two: draw dot spirals on paper with a pen to imprint the pattern. By week's end: small class A dents. 25:20 Week two One-inch creases. Mike never teaches dragging — students walk the tool in from 3 or 9 o'clock, not drag in from 12. Later in the week: class B and C dents — deeper, sharper, bigger. Students guess a class A will take 8 or 12 pushes. Mike makes 300 to 500 light pushes to show ...
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    49 min
  • How to Choose Training- Training Schools vs Mentors vs Online | PDR Life Podcast Ep. 8
    Oct 13 2026
    Episode 8 of 10 · approx. 29 minutes · Host: Gene Fetty 00:00 Every way to learn There are a ton of ways to learn PDR: good, bad, slow, fast. 00:40 Training mills can work Gene went to a five-day training-mill-style class. So did his friend Bryce Kelly, arguably one of the best dent techs ever (look up Bryce Kelly or CFL Dent Repair). Both succeeded. It's possible, just not as probable. 01:20 Free DIY Teach yourself from YouTube, Instagram and TikTok. Doable — but the longest possible path, if you succeed at all. 02:00 Money or time A favorite saying: you pay in money or you pay in time. Gene can always make more money; he can't make more time. If he can buy his way ahead in learning, he's all in. 02:40 Online training Still DIY, but guided. Gene has two classes for $1 each, starting with PDR through GPR — a jump-off point. 03:30 Dent Trainer Myke Toledo of Dent Time — an OG YouTube dent guy. His training site is denttrainer.com, with monthly, quarterly or annual subscriptions. Gene's first two training classes ever are (or were) there: a Jeep Wrangler cowl dent, and moving big damage with small tabs. 05:00 Real World PDR Jim Mitchell, out of Indiana — a fantastic trainer. Monthly subscription. Gene's hurdle for anyone who asked to train with DRN: take Real World PDR's intro class first (roughly $50–$60). Fundamentals, a few tools to buy, a great DIY start. 06:20 Best PDR Training From Žan Vidic of Slovenia — the most decorated competition PDR tech, by a long shot. He's Gene's co-trainer for DRN's advanced trainings and works with Dent Repair Now. bestpdrtraining.com: not a subscription. Beginner, intermediate and advanced levels — all within beginner training. Priced in euros. Mack took these classes while Gene was teaching him. 08:00 Learn PDR Online Another online school. Gene has no direct experience, but has heard the founder on podcasts and believes he's in the UK. 08:20 Online as a supplement Online is viable, just not fastest. It's also a great refresher after in-person training, since you won't remember everything your instructor said. 09:00 Three mentors, three ways Fred (Gene's Michigan instructor) taught lines and working from the outside in. Charlie asked why he was using lines: just use a fluorescent light and push where you want. Jay said no lines, no bare bulb — use a fog reflection, and work from the inside out. All three could fix a dent. Seeing all three techniques made it make sense. 10:50 Take them all If Gene were learning on his own today, he'd buy all the online courses and learn every mentor's perspective on starting and finishing a dent. 11:30 Training mills Bigger companies running five- to ten-day group classes. The business model is volume, not great technicians. They make promises and offer financing. Gene has met several training-mill grads who couldn't fix a dent but were told they were the best their instructor had ever seen. It may be the affordable option, and it can work — but plan to work hard when you get home. 13:40 Boutique trainers One trainer with one to three students for a longer, multi-week class. Myke Toledo does this, with a long list of successful students. Don Cavanaugh of Dent Kraft (with a K) in Minneapolis — one of the oldest old-school dent guys, and possibly the longest-running PDR shop in the country. Hard to get into, but you learn from a true master. 15:10 Connect with your trainer Make sure you really connect with your instructor and like how they explain things. If you're spending weeks together in a small setting, you'd better get along. 16:50 Lines or fog Myke is probably the most famous line-board teacher in the world. Gene can't see a dent on lines; with fog he sees every detail. Figure out which you see better before you commit, then find a trainer who teaches on that reflection. 18:10 Dent Wizard The 800-pound gorilla. Probably no organization has trained more PDR techs. As Gene understands it: six weeks of training in St. Louis on a minimal salary, then a six-month apprenticeship in the field. Tried-and-true processes. Trade-offs, as Gene understands them: a contract that limits where you can go after, you go where they send you, and a pay structure he considers soft. Like boot camp — they'll make you a dent tech or break you. 20:50 Local apprenticeships Smaller companies like DRN bring on apprentices. Gene's right-hand guy started as an apprentice almost 15 years ago. One-on-one, over-the-shoulder, lower pressure — but a slower runway than Dent Wizard. See Mack's episode for what that progression looks like. Gene has friends all over the country looking for hungry apprentices. Put yourself out there: here's where I'm at, here's what I've learned, I want to work for you. 22:50 Full immersion Boutique trainers are still running their repair business while you're there. Full immersion ...
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    30 min
  • Mack's Story: 3rd in the Nation in Under a Year | PDR Life Podcast Ep. 4
    Oct 13 2026
    Episode 4 of 10 · approx. 65 minutes · Host: Gene Fetty · Guest: Mack Fetty 00:00 Meet Mack Mack Fetty, about 19 months into PDR at recording. Gene calls him his proof of concept for the glue pull first method. Gene had seen former glue pull students go on to in-person PDR training, and their instructors all said the same thing: they barely had to nudge them along with pushing. So with Mack: glue pull first — small dents, hail-size dents, creases — before a push tool ever went in his hand. 02:50 Mack's automotive background 19 at recording (20 by release), basically fresh out of high school. Started at 16 as a detailer at the same body shop where Gene once detailed, then became the bumper guy — pre-painted bumper swaps — while keeping an always-broken BMW running on the side. Moved up to core supports, whole front clips, and suspension work. Left the frame work to the veterans. 04:50 Why PDR? Gene and MeLissa decided not to pressure Mack into the trade — they'd back him a million percent if he chose it. Body shop guys kept asking why he wasn't working for his dad. Mack loved the shop, but once he started understanding money, the math hit: Louie would stop by and earn in 30 minutes what Mack earned in a 40-hour week. He'd known Louie forever and could see the lifestyle. It didn't look harder than a body shop — if anything, easier on time. 07:00 The check that came home Gene "planted a seed": after an early-morning job at Mack's shop (about an hour, 8:00 to 9:00), he had the office give the check to Mack to bring home. Mack thought it was about $400; Gene says closer to $600. Mack only realized on the show that it was a setup. "The PSYOP worked." 08:45 MTE 2024 Mack's first Mobile Tech Expo was early 2024 — before he'd glue pulled or pushed anything. MTE is the biggest reconditioning show in the world, held at the end of January or beginning of February. Gene recommends it whether you're in the business or thinking about it: mobiletechexpo.com Meeting the PDR community, sitting in classes, and watching the competition helped him decide. 11:00 Work release and window tint Mack was a junior at MTE 2024. That fall, as a senior, he'd earned extra credits for work release — school until about 11:00, then work. In September 2024 DRN lost its window tinter. Mack had sat in on a day of tint training, put his notice in at the body shop (owner Chris knew he was making the right move), and took over tint. Mack's verdict: tint is "100 times easier" than PDR. (Sorry, Trevor.) 14:20 Bryce Kelly and the tint detour Gene's aside: Bryce Kelly, one of the greatest dent guys alive, almost became a window tinter — Gene thinks he told that story on the Dent Slayer podcast. Once the slow season hit around the holidays, it was time for Mack to start PDR — glue pull only. 15:20 Did glue pull only bother him? Not really. The only frustration: working a practice hood right next to hail cars he wasn't allowed to touch. His logic: the guy who knows how to do it says this way is easier, so try it first. And he was getting it. 17:50 Day one Small, light dime-sized dents on a flat hood or door laid down. Some reps were just dropping a Sharpie dot in the center of the dent — learning to find the middle with a light, see what the light looks like, and tell a high from a low. 19:30 Billable on day one Mack fixed hail-size dents on day one — about an hour to an hour and a half each, no cross-checking yet, but flat and not chewed up. Gene's point: within a couple of hours, Mack was fixing dents to a wholesale-billable level. A month or even three months into his own training, Gene couldn't push billable work consistently. 21:00 Stacking wins Stack losses and you get defeated and quit. Stack small wins and you want to keep going. Mack: even if you miss the next one, you already fixed one an hour ago. 22:00 Early struggles Placement came quickly — good depth perception and hand-eye coordination, plus tricks he worked out himself, like tapping the glue. Knockdowns were the struggle: unfamiliar, two-handed, and precise. The bigger struggle was seeing finish work. Mack would move his light in circles cross-checking for 45 minutes and think he was close; Gene would point out a line he couldn't see. 25:00 The camera trick and the monocle Gene put a camera on the light and showed it on a TV (sometimes just his phone). Looking over Mack's shoulder, Gene can't know where the light sits relative to Mack's eyes; the camera showed exactly what Mack wasn't seeing, and all he had to do was recreate that picture with his own eyes. Mack's mistake: putting the light directly over the dent, which washes it out, instead of using the fog. Gene calls this the "tech's eye view," and builds it into all his online training. Working with a magnifier — Mack used a monocle from KECO — made repairs faster and cleaner. Now his eyes have ...
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    1 ora e 6 min
  • Light is the Language of PDR | PDR Life Podcast Ep. 3
    Oct 13 2026
    Episode 3 of 10 · approx. 22 minutes · Host: Gene Fetty 00:00 The secret to PDR Gene's line from his KECO classes: the secret to PDR is simply that we can see exactly what we're doing — and the light is what lets us see. 01:00 Why it looks easy Watching someone do PDR, in person or in a video, you don't get the technician's view. A tool goes behind the panel, the panel moves, and the dent disappears like magic. 01:50 Gene tries it on his own car After watching Charlie, Gene tried it on his own car and cracked the paint on the door in about three places. Same story with body techs: they watch a pro, go back to their bay with a screwdriver or pry tool, and get crack, crack, crack — or at best, high spot, high spot, high spot. The difference: the tech is using the light to see exactly where the bottom of the dent is. 02:50 The hand demo Gene holds his fingers together as a cross-section of a dent. Push right where the fingers meet and the "dent" comes up smoothly, even while he fights it. Push on the sides instead — what you do when you can't see the bottom — and there's no power. His hands collapse. That's pushing without seeing. Ask Gene for the demo if you ever meet him in person. 04:20 Still need the light after 24 years Started in 2002, now 2026: 24+ years of pushing dents nearly every day, and Gene still can't fix a dent to a high level without a light. 04:45 Whiteboard: the bottom of the dent Push (or place your glue tab) exactly in the deepest part of the dent, push or pull straight up, and you make great change. Pushing: the V-shaped bottom flattens and softens into a U, then comes up clean. Pulling: shoulders come up, the dent shallows out, and you work through steps to smooth and pull again. 06:10 How the light shows the bottom Light rays come in from the light source. The flat metal on one side blocks them, so that side of the dent falls into shadow; the other side catches the light and goes bright. A fog reflection — what these lights produce — shows you the line where shadow meets bright light. That line is the bottom of the dent. 08:15 Reading a high spot Think of a high spot as a mountain. At sunrise the eastern face lights up, the rays shoot over the top, and the valley behind stays in shadow. Where bright turns to dark is the peak of the high spot. 09:50 It's all perspective A dent and a high spot are the same thing from opposite sides of the metal. Hit the exact peak with a knockdown or hammer and you can hit surprisingly hard without making a dent. After 24 years it still blows Gene's mind. 10:40 The most important skill Seeing accurately is the most important fundamental skill in PDR. 11:15 Why this backs up glue pull first Learning to read that light-to-dark transition while bobbing your head is hard enough. Add moving a tool precisely behind the panel and it becomes overload — maybe even fight-or-flight. Back to episode 2: learn to see first. 12:10 Don't buy cheap knockoff lights You can find cheap lights on Amazon or Temu. If seeing is the secret, don't shortchange yourself. The reflection from cheap lights has nuances that just aren't right. 13:00 Stuckey Tools Stuckey Tools: https://www.stuckeytools.com/ · Elimadent: https://elimadent.com/ Gene's two daily-driver brands are both U.S.-based, with great tech support and customer service, and he knows both owners. Stuckey Tools: portable battery-powered lights (the one on camera is roughly iPad-sized, about six strips, cool and warm, each strip switchable), in a couple of sizes, plus full-size stand lights — also called hail lights. 14:00 Elimadent and LED The second recommended brand, which Gene says is based in Texas. Also fantastic lights. Both brands are LED. Fluorescent — what Gene started on — is gone. LED is what lets you see best. 14:30 Pocket lights Small pocket lights, like the Elimadent X-Factor Flip Light shown on camera, run about $200–$250. They're specialty lights — great for getting out of a jam on deep, difficult dents. They're on the tool list, but they're not where a beginner should start. 15:45 Portable vs. stand light Start with a Stuckey or Elimadent portable cordless light or a stand light. Both companies make both. As you finish a dent, the light needs to move farther away and lower on the panel, then keep moving away once it's at panel height. If a portable light is your only light, it can be hard to get it far enough away. Workarounds: stick it to your toolbox, or mount it on something like a cymbal stand. The most versatility comes from a full stand (hail) light. Links to everything are coming in the tools episode. The PDR through GPR course recommends an Elimadent light from Anson PDR. 17:10 Lines vs. fog Myke Toledo (Myke with a Y) of Dent Time — denttime.com — is an old-school PDR YouTuber with tons of content. He works with and teaches on a line board....
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    23 min