Ep.10 When It’s Not Abuse… But It’s Still Not Right (Featuring Kole Whitty)

What if the most dangerous place to stay is the one that looks “fine”?

In this episode of Not Saving It for Later, Hannah sits down with Kole Whitty for a conversation about divorce, identity, desire, and the moment a woman realizes she can’t keep betraying herself to keep the peace.

This episode is for the woman who isn’t in crisis — but isn’t free either.

00:00 – Welcome to Not Saving It for Later
03:10 – When Nothing Is Technically Wrong… But Everything Feels Off

07:45 – The Pressure to Just Be Grateful

12:30 – Staying Loyal to a Life That’s Shrinking You

17:20 – When Your Body Starts Keeping the Score

22:40 – The Fear of Wanting More

28:05 – Leaving Without a Villain

33:50 – The Myth of “Blowing Up Your Life”

39:15 – Doing the Work Instead of Jumping to the Next Thing

45:10 – Money, Revenge, and the Cost of Being Right

50:30 – Desire vs. Deserve

55:40 – If You’re Standing at the Edge Right Now

59:00 – Final Reflections: Choosing Yourself Gently

The Circle — Weekly live coaching + The My Confident Divorce course
👉 https://myconfidentdivorce.com/circle

OurFamilyWizard — The co-parenting communication tool Hannah personally uses and recommends
👉 https://www.ourfamilywizard.com/HHB

Follow Hannah on Instagram & TikTok
👉 @hannahhembreebell

Texas family law support -
👉 https://hembreebell.com

Not Saving It for Later is the podcast for women navigating divorce and beyond — where we stop whispering about what’s hard and start talking about what’s real.

This podcast is for education and inspiration only — not legal, medical, or mental health advice.
If you are in danger, contact local emergency services or the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 800-799-SAFE (7233).

Ep. 9 Do You Want Justice… or Do You Want Peace? (Featuring Sam Colletti)

Hannah sits down with Austin family law attorney and mediator Sam Colletti, a trusted colleague and longtime friend, for a ground-level conversation about what mediation actually is, what it isn’t, and why so many people misunderstand their options during divorce.

This episode pulls back the curtain on the divorce process — especially the emotional traps that keep people stuck chasing “justice,” burning money, and handing control of their future to a system that was never designed to heal them.

If you’ve ever said “I don’t want to go to court — I just want mediation,” this conversation is for you.

Hannah and Sam break down:

• why mediation is not the opposite of court (it’s a waypoint),

• how chasing retribution often costs more than it gives,

• where real control actually lives in divorce,

• and how staying curious instead of judgmental can change the outcome of your case — and your life after it.

This is a practical, honest, and human episode about ending a marriage well, protecting your future self, and choosing peace without pretending the pain doesn’t exist.

00:00 – Welcome to Not Saving It for Later
01:00 – Hannah and Sam’s real-life friendship & why this conversation matters
04:30 – What mediation actually is (and why “mediation vs. court” is the wrong question)
08:00 – Why mediation is a waypoint — not a magic alternative
11:45 – The risks of going to court: bells you can’t un-ring
14:00 – Why attorney choice shapes your entire divorce experience
17:00 – The myth of justice in divorce (and what people are really chasing)
21:00 – “Do you want to be right, or do you want to be happy?”
24:00 – Control: where you have it in mediation — and where you lose it in court
28:00 – Why high-conflict cases feel existential (and why that matters)
32:00 – Curiosity vs. judgment: the question that changes mediation outcomes
36:00 – Why compromise isn’t weakness — it’s strategy
39:00 – When trial is the right answer (and when it isn’t)
44:00 – Pre-lawsuit mediation & Sam’s “Mediation for Empowered Uncoupling” model
50:00 – Letting go of revenge without abandoning your needs
54:00 – “Peace is an inside job” — what Hannah learned the hard way
57:00 – Not saving joy, healing, or life for later

• Mediation is not “avoiding court” — it’s a strategic step within the legal process

• Court offers catharsis, not control — and rarely delivers the justice people expect

• Most people aren’t fighting for money; they’re fighting for recognition and fairness

• You cannot outsource peace to a judge, mediator, or legal system

• Staying curious instead of judgmental keeps you aligned with your long-term future

• The goal isn’t to win divorce — it’s to end it without burning your next chapter

Sam Colletti is a Texas family law attorney and mediator focused on helping families resolve divorce with clarity, dignity, and intention.

Connect With Sam Here: https://nmsb-law.com/

Sam's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sam_d_colletti/?__d=1

Mentioned In This EpisodeThe Circle — Weekly live coaching + The My Confident Divorce course→ myconfidentdivorce.com/circleHembree Bell Law Firm (Texas)→ hembreebell.comFollow Hannah on Instagram & TikTok → @hannahhembreebell

Not Saving It for Later is the podcast for women navigating divorce and beyond — where we stop whispering about what’s hard and start talking about what’s real.

This show is for education and inspiration only — not legal or mental health advice.
If you are in danger, contact local emergency services or the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 800-799-SAFE (7233).

(featuring Steven Bradley, “The Tech Cowboy”)

Hannah sits down with former FBI investigator and certified “Tech Cowboy” Steven Bradley — a digital safety expert who has seen every trick, trap, and tech-enabled manipulation used in divorces and abusive relationships.

If you’re anywhere near divorce — contemplating it, in the thick of separation, or rebuilding after — this episode is a wake-up call you cannot skip.

Steven exposes the invisible ways technology gets weaponized:
tracking, cloning phones, spying through Alexa, manipulating text messages, hijacking your Wi-Fi, pulling your location from your AirPods, and even rewriting the narrative inside co-parenting communication.

If you’ve ever had the gut feeling he knows too much… or things just feel off… you’re not crazy.

And you’re not helpless.

This episode teaches you the digital safety steps every woman should take — with or without conflict — so you can reclaim your privacy, your safety, and your peace.

00:00 – Why Technology Is the New Battlefield in Divorce

02:00 – Steven’s Background in FBI Cyber & Domestic Crimes

03:00 – How Your Passwords, Security Questions & Shared Accounts Put You at Risk

05:40 – What’s at Stake If You Ignore Digital Safety

08:50 – Lock It Down: The First Safety Steps Every Woman Should Take

12:10 – The One Thing Almost Everyone Forgets to Change

14:35 – How to Time Your Security Changes Without Starting a War

17:52 – When You’re in a High-Conflict Situation: Advanced Protection

20:25 – Spyware, Stalkerware & Phone Cloning

23:00 – The First 3–4 Months After Separation: The Most Dangerous Window

29:19 – Car Trackers, AirPods, and “Find My” Manipulation

31:59 – Validation: You’re Not Crazy

34:37 – What Lawyers Don’t Understand (Yet) About Tech Abuse

38:09 – Preventative Tech Boundaries for Healthy Marriages & New Starts

42:54 – The Co-Parenting Tool That Changes Everything: OurFamilyWizard

49:48 – Real Talk: You Don’t Have to Be Techy to Stay Safe

54:32 – Not Saving It for Later: What Steven Learned the Hard Way

56:00 – The Thought That’s Been Circling Steven’s Mind

57:02 – What’s Shaking Him Lately

58:07 – His One Message for Women in Divorceland

Connect With Steven:

LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-bradley-10136022/

OurFamilyWizard → ourfamilywizard.com/HHB
(The co-parenting tool used by courts nationwide — and the one Hannah personally swears by.)

Mentioned In This Episode

The Circle — Weekly live coaching + The My Confident Divorce course
→ myconfidentdivorce.com/circle

Hembree Bell Law Firm (Texas)
→ hembreebell.com

Follow Hannah on Instagram & TikTok → @hannahhembreebell

This podcast is for education and inspiration only — not legal, medical, or mental health advice.
If you’re in Texas and need legal support, consult a licensed attorney.
If you’re in danger, call 911 or the National Domestic Violence Hotline: 800-799-SAFE (7233).

Episode 7. Dishonesty Is Killing You: How to Stop Abandoning Yourself(featuring Tah Whitty)

In this raw conversation, Hannah sits down with one of the most singular humans she’s ever met: Tah Whitty — former trauma nurse, impossibility alchemist, and the man people go to when they’re finally done lying to themselves.

Tah has worked in emergency rooms, with elite performers, with couples on the brink, and with people who have spent their entire lives shrinking, masking, and contorting themselves into someone more “acceptable.” His work sits at the intersection of biology, honesty, safety, nervous system truth, and what it actually takes to become a fully expressed human.

If you’ve felt stuck in your marriage… stuck in your patterns… stuck in the “pick me” persona you built to survive… or stuck between the 2 a.m. version of you and the polished daytime one — this episode will feel like relief and reckoning at the same time.

Warning: You will not leave this episode the same.
And that’s the point.

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 – The End of “Later”

02:00 – Who Tah Whitty Really Is

03:30 – Nursing, Trauma & the Body

04:40 – The Most Transformative Thing Tah Taught Hannah: Radical Honesty

07:40 – What Dishonesty Really Is

10:00 – How We Train Ourselves Out of Truth

13:00 – The Vault: How the Body Stores Unspoken Truth

17:00 – Feeling Stuck in a Marriage

18:00 – Anger: The Messenger You’ve Been Taught to Ignore

21:00 – Dishonesty as a Protective Mechanism

25:00 – Men with Tempers: Why It Feels So Scary

27:30 – Boundaries, Self-Worth & The Woman Who Can’t Say “Enough”

31:00 – Why You Need People Outside the Marriage

33:00 – Tyrants, Control & Losing Your Power

36:00 – Society Was Built for Men — And Women Pay the Price

38:00 – Why Women Get Manipulated During Divorce

40:00 – Stop Asking “Why” — Start Asking “What”

43:00 – Are You Really Safe? What Safety Actually Means

45:00 – Why Telling the Truth Will Cost You

48:00 – Dishonesty Will Cost You More

49:30 – The Internet Has Higher Truth Standards Than Marriage

52:00 – Compassion Through Honesty

54:00 – The Two Versions of Hannah

57:00 – The Vault Cracks Open

59:00 – Baby-Step Honesty: How Hannah Rebuilt Herself

01:01:00 – The Miracle of Being Fully Seen🔥

Connect with Tah Whitty:

Tah Whitty — Impossibility Alchemist & Coach
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tahfree/?hl=en
Work With Tah: https://calltah.com/?utm_source=ig&utm_medium=social&utm_content=link_in_bio&fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQMMjU2MjgxMDQwNTU4AAGnzwypce7KJjeZyaFoY1452zsaii2KYGH4AbInWDdXssC6EMhfRsBKwTUVJNI_aem_gQffKSdqvcH1WEmAeICzuQ

Mentioned In This Episode:

The Circle — Weekly live coaching + My Confident Divorce
→ myconfidentdivorce.com/circle

OurFamilyWizard — Court-trusted co-parenting communication
→ ourfamilywizard.com/HHB

Hembree Bell Law Firm (Texas)
→ hembreebell.com

Follow Hannah on Instagram & TikTok
→ @hannahhembreebell

This podcast is for education and inspiration only, not legal, medical, or mental health advice. If you’re in Texas and need legal help, consult a licensed attorney. If you’re in danger, call 911 or the National Domestic Violence Hotline: 800-799-SAFE (7233).

Episode 6. The Truth About Men, Money & Moving On (featuring Holly J. Moore)

In this honest, no-fluff conversation, Hannah sits down with powerhouse California divorce attorney Holly J. Moore — the woman who has seen everything from celebrity splits to the emotional landmines women walk into without even knowing it.

Holly represents high-net-worth clients, professional athletes, and a whole lot of men — giving her a front-row seat to the differences in how men and women prepare for divorce, survive divorce, and rebuild after divorce.

If you’ve ever wondered:

Why do men seem to move on faster?
Why do women struggle with identity so much more?
Why does support feel like both a lifeline and a trap?
How do I keep my emotions from blowing up my case?

— this episode is a masterclass.

Holly and Hannah unpack money wounds, identity collapse, purpose, the danger of revenge energy, the truth about celebrity divorces, and what women must know if they want to stop surviving and start becoming.

00:00 – Why We’re Done Waiting

02:00 – Representing High-Net-Worth Clients & Men

06:00 – How Men and Women Divorce Differently

09:00 – What Support Really Looks Like (California vs. Texas)

12:30 – The Identity Collapse After Divorce

16:00 – What Happens When the Wife Card Gets Pulled

20:00 – Fear, Money & the Truth Women Don’t Want to Admit

23:00 – “It’s Never Too Late to Start Over”

25:00 – The Best & Worst News: Your Life Is On You

27:40 – Who Actually Prepares Better: Men or Women?

29:00 – The One Question Every Woman Needs During Divorce

32:00 – The #1 Mistake Women Make: Using Kids as Pawns

37:00 – The Golden Rule: Never Act While Activated

42:00 – How Men Move On Faster (and Why Women Don’t)

47:00 – The Power of Leaving the Stuff Behind

52:00 – What Celebrity Divorce Really Looks Like

56:00 – Reputation, Leverage & Press Exposure

58:30 – When Emotion Destroys Your Own Case

01:01:30 – The Danger of Being a Divorce Lawyer

Connect With Holly:

Holly J. Moore – Divorce & Family Lawyer (California)
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hollyjmoore/?hl=en
Website: https://www.moorefamilylawgroup.com/careers-2-4/holly-j-moore/
Podcast: Made for More → https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/made-for-moore-with-holly-j-moore/id1730797527

Mentioned In This Episode:

The Circle — Weekly live coaching + My Confident Divorce
→ myconfidentdivorce.com/circle

OurFamilyWizard — Court-trusted co-parenting communication
→ ourfamilywizard.com/HHB

Hembree Bell Law Firm (Texas)
→ hembreebell.com

Follow Hannah on Instagram & TikTok
→ @hannahhembreebell

This podcast is for education and inspiration only, not legal, medical, or mental health advice. If you’re in Texas and need legal help, consult a licensed attorney. If you’re in danger, call 911 or the National Domestic Violence Hotline: 800-799-SAFE (7233).

Episode 5: Becoming the Woman You Were Always Afraid to Be (featuring Lily Shepard)

In this powerful conversation, Hannah sits down with somatic executive coach Lily Shepard to talk about identity, the body, divorce, desire, and what it really means to become the woman you were meant to be.

Lily shares her own traumatic divorce experience, how identity collapses when the “wife” role disappears, and how reconnecting to the body creates space for safety, clarity, and authentic expansion.

They unpack:

• why most women run from something, not toward something

• the collapse that happens when identity is built on roles

• how to rediscover pieces of yourself you abandoned in marriage

• practical somatic tools for grounding and self-safety

• why joy feels terrifying

• the radical truth: “I want more” is a complete sentence

This episode will challenge you, comfort you, and offer a roadmap for the next version of yourself.

Hannah and Lily talk about how women evolve, and why identity shouldn’t be pinned down for other people’s comfort.

TIMESTAMPS & KEY MOMENTS

0:00 — Living Out Loud

2:07 — Identity Isn’t Fixed

3:55 — The Identity Collapse of Divorce

5:48 — Clinging to the Old Life

7:30 — Running From vs. Running Toward

9:44 — Bitter or Better

12:38 — Identity Built on Others

14:03 — Reclaiming What You Abandoned

19:11 — What Somatic Work Really Means

21:22 — Imagining the Woman You’re Becoming

24:08 — The Body as the Way Home

27:36 — Writing a Letter to Your Body

30:29 — Desire, Shame & “The Lion Inside”

34:01 — The Sentence Divorce Forces Out of You: “I Want More.”

39:23 — Practical Tools for Feeling Safe Again

42:58 — The Hardest Part: Letting Good Things In

47:55 — Best-Case-Scenario Thinking

51:48 — Divorce as a Superpower

Work with Lily:
Somatic Executive Coaching for high-achieving women rebuilding identity, safety, and desire

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bodyintelligence_academy/?hl=en
Website: https://www.bodyintelligenceacademy.com/
Coaching: https://www.bodyintelligenceacademy.com/1-1-coaching

Mentioned In This Episode

Hannah's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hannahhembreebell/

OurFamilyWizard (OFW)
Court-trusted communication tool for co-parents.
https://www.ourfamilywizard.com

My Confident Divorce (MCD)
Hannah’s community + coaching for women navigating divorce, identity, and rebuilding their lives.
https://myconfidentdivorce.com

Hembree Bell Law Firm (HBLF)
Modern, tech-forward Texas family law representation that protects your peace, your kids, and your future.
https://hembreebell.com

This podcast and its show notes are for educational and informational purposes only.
Nothing in this episode constitutes legal advice, mental health advice, or financial advice. Every situation is unique, and listeners should consult with a licensed professional in their state before making decisions related to divorce, parenting, finances, or mental health.

If you feel unsafe at any point in your relationship, please contact a local domestic violence hotline or emergency services. Your safety matters.

Episode 4. The Money Talk Women Were Never Given: Why Divorce Blindsides Even the Smartest Women (featuring Sara Glakas)

In this practical conversation, Hannah sits down with financial educator and advisor Sara Glakas — founder of Black Barn Financial and the Austin Women’s Investing Group. She is a long-time advocate for helping women build confidence around money.

If you're navigating divorce, considering leaving, or realizing you never had a clear picture of your financial life, this episode explains why — and what you can do next.

Sara breaks down financial avoidance, investing basics, emotional decision-making, advisor red flags, and why so many capable women enter divorce without a roadmap.
Clear, accessible, and grounded in real experience, this conversation offers the financial context most women were never given.

00:00 – Why Women Walk Into Divorce Without a Map

01:28 – Meet Sara Glakas

02:14 – Inside a Family Law Firm: The Wake-Up Moment

04:08 – The Myths Women Carry Into Divorce

06:27 – ‘I’ve Never Looked at a Tax Return Before…’

10:51 – Financial Avoidance: The Silent Risk

13:10 – Understanding Your Money Story

15:50 – When Your Money Story Collides with Divorce

32:21 – Budgeting, Shame & Psychological Blocks

33:32 – Investing Basics Every Woman Should Know

38:53 – Why Financial Advisors Feel Intimidating

45:40 – How Advisors Get Paid (and Why It Matters)

1:06:52 – Stop Saving Joy for “Later”

1:15:47 – Final Thoughts: Women Are More Capable Than They Think

Connect with Sara Glakas

Check Out Black Barn Financial: https://www.blackbarnfinancial.com/

Check Out Austin Womens Investing Group:

https://austinwomensinvestinggroup.com/

Follow Sara on Her Podcast: https://www.womenontheverge.com/

Resources Mentioned:

The Circle — MyConfidentDivorce.com/Circle

OurFamilyWizard — OurFamilyWizard.com/HHB

Hembree Bell Law Firm - Hembreebell.com

Follow Hannah on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/hannahhembreebell/

Follow Hannah on TikTok -

https://www.tiktok.com/@hannahhembreebell

Episode 3. Your Triggers Aren't The Problem... You Are (featuring Casey Shipp)

In this no-filter, no-bullshit conversation, Hannah sits down with her mentor, coach, and full-blown spiritual defibrillator, Casey Shipp — the woman Hannah calls her string bikini shaman and one of the biggest influences in her own evolution.

If you are in the middle of a divorce, thinking about leaving, or standing in the ashes asking, How did I end up here again? — this episode will feel like someone finally turned the lights on.

Casey talks triggers, victim cycles, emotional intelligence, money wounds, nervous system regulation, and the real reason women keep choosing the same man in a different body.
Warning: You will be called out. And you will be liberated.

00:00 – Why You’re Actually Triggered
Why triggers aren’t insults — they’re invitations. And why something only stings if some part of you believes it’s true.

06:00 – The Victim Loop & How Women Get Stuck There
How women in divorce land get trapped in victim → villain → victim cycles… and how to break the pattern before you ruin the next relationship.

12:00 – Taking Radical Responsibility (Without Shame)
How to look at the marriage you chose, the pain you allowed, and the version of yourself who said yes — with compassion instead of self-hate.

18:00 – Identity, Divorce & the House of Cards
Why your identity collapses during divorce — and the reason so many women realize they never built one of their own to begin with.

23:00 – Knowing What You Want (For Real This Time)
Casey guides you through how to uncover desire without guilt, fear, or the martyr voice that says: I don’t need anything.

30:00 – Money Wounds, Worthiness & the Lie of ‘I Can’t Afford to Leave’
The brutal truth about money stories, safety, and why staying for financial security is spiritual and emotional self-abandonment.

43:00 – Alignment, Emotional Intelligence & Taking the Next Right Step
How to know if your next move is aligned — and how to stop leaking energy through drama, fear, or frantic action.

50:00 – The Problem with Bitch-Fest Friend Groups
Why complaining to your friends keeps you stuck — and why AI might actually be the more emotionally mature support system right now.

54:00 – How AI Became a Tool for Emotional Regulation
Hannah shares how Casey’s AI helped her understand her emotional patterns, stop looping, and regulate instead of spiraling.

1:06:00 – Death, Rebirth & Reinvention (A Necessary Breakdown)
Casey opens up about her own current season of “the hustle detox” and spiritual death cycles.

1:08:00 – The One Message Casey Has for Every Woman in Divorceland
“Keep your heart open.”
Not naive. Not blind. Just open. Because nothing you want lives behind a closed heart.

• “Triggers are gifts — little truth bombs pointing you back to yourself.”

• “You didn’t choose wrong because you’re stupid. You chose from your unhealed places.”

• “Divorce can make you bitter or better — you choose.”

• “Money doesn’t come from men. Money comes from belief.”

• “If you’re trying to avoid disappointment, you will live a disappointing life.”

• “Nothing you want exists in a closed heart.”

• Casey Shipp’s AI — The emotional-regulation AI Hannah swears changed her life.

  →https://www.caseyshipphmz.com/hotbodyai

  • Casey Shipp’s Instagram - →https://www.instagram.com/caseyshipp/
  • Casey Shipp’s Youtube - →https://www.youtube.com/@CaseyShipp

• • The Circle — Weekly live sessions + My Confident Divorce course
    → myconfidentdivorce.com/circle

  • OurFamilyWizard — The co-parenting app that keeps communication clean and court-ready
    → ourfamilywizard.com/HHB

  • Hembree Bell Law Firm (Texas)
    → hembreebell.com

  Follow Hannah on Instagram & TikTok → @hannahhembreebell
  

  This podcast is for education and inspiration only, not legal, medical, or mental health advice. If you’re in Texas and need legal help, consult a licensed attorney. If you’re in danger, call 911 or the National Domestic Violence Hotline: 800-799-SAFE (7233).