Ep.10 When It’s Not Abuse… But It’s Still Not Right (Featuring Kole Whitty)

What if the most dangerous place to stay is the one that looks “fine”?

In this episode of Not Saving It for Later, Hannah sits down with Kole Whitty for a conversation about divorce, identity, desire, and the moment a woman realizes she can’t keep betraying herself to keep the peace.

This episode is for the woman who isn’t in crisis — but isn’t free either.

00:00 – Welcome to Not Saving It for Later
03:10 – When Nothing Is Technically Wrong… But Everything Feels Off

07:45 – The Pressure to Just Be Grateful

12:30 – Staying Loyal to a Life That’s Shrinking You

17:20 – When Your Body Starts Keeping the Score

22:40 – The Fear of Wanting More

28:05 – Leaving Without a Villain

33:50 – The Myth of “Blowing Up Your Life”

39:15 – Doing the Work Instead of Jumping to the Next Thing

45:10 – Money, Revenge, and the Cost of Being Right

50:30 – Desire vs. Deserve

55:40 – If You’re Standing at the Edge Right Now

59:00 – Final Reflections: Choosing Yourself Gently

The Circle — Weekly live coaching + The My Confident Divorce course
👉 https://myconfidentdivorce.com/circle

OurFamilyWizard — The co-parenting communication tool Hannah personally uses and recommends
👉 https://www.ourfamilywizard.com/HHB

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Not Saving It for Later is the podcast for women navigating divorce and beyond — where we stop whispering about what’s hard and start talking about what’s real.

This podcast is for education and inspiration only — not legal, medical, or mental health advice.
If you are in danger, contact local emergency services or the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 800-799-SAFE (7233).

Ep. 9 Do You Want Justice… or Do You Want Peace? (Featuring Sam Colletti)

Hannah sits down with Austin family law attorney and mediator Sam Colletti, a trusted colleague and longtime friend, for a ground-level conversation about what mediation actually is, what it isn’t, and why so many people misunderstand their options during divorce.

This episode pulls back the curtain on the divorce process — especially the emotional traps that keep people stuck chasing “justice,” burning money, and handing control of their future to a system that was never designed to heal them.

If you’ve ever said “I don’t want to go to court — I just want mediation,” this conversation is for you.

Hannah and Sam break down:

• why mediation is not the opposite of court (it’s a waypoint),

• how chasing retribution often costs more than it gives,

• where real control actually lives in divorce,

• and how staying curious instead of judgmental can change the outcome of your case — and your life after it.

This is a practical, honest, and human episode about ending a marriage well, protecting your future self, and choosing peace without pretending the pain doesn’t exist.

00:00 – Welcome to Not Saving It for Later
01:00 – Hannah and Sam’s real-life friendship & why this conversation matters
04:30 – What mediation actually is (and why “mediation vs. court” is the wrong question)
08:00 – Why mediation is a waypoint — not a magic alternative
11:45 – The risks of going to court: bells you can’t un-ring
14:00 – Why attorney choice shapes your entire divorce experience
17:00 – The myth of justice in divorce (and what people are really chasing)
21:00 – “Do you want to be right, or do you want to be happy?”
24:00 – Control: where you have it in mediation — and where you lose it in court
28:00 – Why high-conflict cases feel existential (and why that matters)
32:00 – Curiosity vs. judgment: the question that changes mediation outcomes
36:00 – Why compromise isn’t weakness — it’s strategy
39:00 – When trial is the right answer (and when it isn’t)
44:00 – Pre-lawsuit mediation & Sam’s “Mediation for Empowered Uncoupling” model
50:00 – Letting go of revenge without abandoning your needs
54:00 – “Peace is an inside job” — what Hannah learned the hard way
57:00 – Not saving joy, healing, or life for later

• Mediation is not “avoiding court” — it’s a strategic step within the legal process

• Court offers catharsis, not control — and rarely delivers the justice people expect

• Most people aren’t fighting for money; they’re fighting for recognition and fairness

• You cannot outsource peace to a judge, mediator, or legal system

• Staying curious instead of judgmental keeps you aligned with your long-term future

• The goal isn’t to win divorce — it’s to end it without burning your next chapter

Sam Colletti is a Texas family law attorney and mediator focused on helping families resolve divorce with clarity, dignity, and intention.

Connect With Sam Here: https://nmsb-law.com/

Sam's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sam_d_colletti/?__d=1

Mentioned In This EpisodeThe Circle — Weekly live coaching + The My Confident Divorce course→ myconfidentdivorce.com/circleHembree Bell Law Firm (Texas)→ hembreebell.comFollow Hannah on Instagram & TikTok → @hannahhembreebell

Not Saving It for Later is the podcast for women navigating divorce and beyond — where we stop whispering about what’s hard and start talking about what’s real.

This show is for education and inspiration only — not legal or mental health advice.
If you are in danger, contact local emergency services or the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 800-799-SAFE (7233).

(featuring Steven Bradley, “The Tech Cowboy”)

Hannah sits down with former FBI investigator and certified “Tech Cowboy” Steven Bradley — a digital safety expert who has seen every trick, trap, and tech-enabled manipulation used in divorces and abusive relationships.

If you’re anywhere near divorce — contemplating it, in the thick of separation, or rebuilding after — this episode is a wake-up call you cannot skip.

Steven exposes the invisible ways technology gets weaponized:
tracking, cloning phones, spying through Alexa, manipulating text messages, hijacking your Wi-Fi, pulling your location from your AirPods, and even rewriting the narrative inside co-parenting communication.

If you’ve ever had the gut feeling he knows too much… or things just feel off… you’re not crazy.

And you’re not helpless.

This episode teaches you the digital safety steps every woman should take — with or without conflict — so you can reclaim your privacy, your safety, and your peace.

00:00 – Why Technology Is the New Battlefield in Divorce

02:00 – Steven’s Background in FBI Cyber & Domestic Crimes

03:00 – How Your Passwords, Security Questions & Shared Accounts Put You at Risk

05:40 – What’s at Stake If You Ignore Digital Safety

08:50 – Lock It Down: The First Safety Steps Every Woman Should Take

12:10 – The One Thing Almost Everyone Forgets to Change

14:35 – How to Time Your Security Changes Without Starting a War

17:52 – When You’re in a High-Conflict Situation: Advanced Protection

20:25 – Spyware, Stalkerware & Phone Cloning

23:00 – The First 3–4 Months After Separation: The Most Dangerous Window

29:19 – Car Trackers, AirPods, and “Find My” Manipulation

31:59 – Validation: You’re Not Crazy

34:37 – What Lawyers Don’t Understand (Yet) About Tech Abuse

38:09 – Preventative Tech Boundaries for Healthy Marriages & New Starts

42:54 – The Co-Parenting Tool That Changes Everything: OurFamilyWizard

49:48 – Real Talk: You Don’t Have to Be Techy to Stay Safe

54:32 – Not Saving It for Later: What Steven Learned the Hard Way

56:00 – The Thought That’s Been Circling Steven’s Mind

57:02 – What’s Shaking Him Lately

58:07 – His One Message for Women in Divorceland

Connect With Steven:

LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-bradley-10136022/

OurFamilyWizard → ourfamilywizard.com/HHB
(The co-parenting tool used by courts nationwide — and the one Hannah personally swears by.)

Mentioned In This Episode

The Circle — Weekly live coaching + The My Confident Divorce course
→ myconfidentdivorce.com/circle

Hembree Bell Law Firm (Texas)
→ hembreebell.com

Follow Hannah on Instagram & TikTok → @hannahhembreebell

This podcast is for education and inspiration only — not legal, medical, or mental health advice.
If you’re in Texas and need legal support, consult a licensed attorney.
If you’re in danger, call 911 or the National Domestic Violence Hotline: 800-799-SAFE (7233).