In this episode of The Revenue Room™, Heather Holst-Knudsen sits down with Janice Liu, the Mantis Group CEO reveals why "every company is a data company" whether they like it or not. Janice breaks down her proprietary methodology for appraising data assets—often proving they are worth more than a company's traditional operating business—and explains how this valuation can radically increase M&A multiples. We dive deep into "shadow inefficiencies," the mechanics of brokering data deals with Large Language Models (LLMs), and why ethical consent is the single most critical factor in future-proofing your revenue. If you think your data is just a compliance risk, this conversation will change your entire balance sheet.

WHY LISTEN

This episode is essential for leaders who are:

• Leading transformation inside legacy or scaled organizations
• Managing growth through acquisitions or portfolio complexity
• Aligning leadership teams during periods of uncertainty
• Using data to drive clarity and confidence in decision-making
• Navigating AI disruption without losing organizational trust
• Balancing performance, culture, and long-term value creation

If you’re a CEO, CMO, CRO, or senior operator steering an organization through change, this episode delivers grounded, experience-driven perspective.

CONNECT WITH JANICE LIU: linkedin.com/in/janice-liu-89905620

About RevvedUP 2026
RevvedUP 2026 is where CEOs and revenue-critical C-Suite leaders reset their growth playbook for the AI-first economy. Taking place March 23–24, 2026 at The Vinoy Resort in St. Petersburg, FL, this two-day strategy lab helps leaders pressure-test how AI moves from cost center to growth driver and turn data and disruption into competitive advantage.

About Heather Holst-Knudsen
Heather Holst-Knudsen is the founder and CEO of H2K Labs and Revenue Room™ Connect. A seasoned executive and operator across media, marketplaces, events, and technology, she specializes in digital transformation, data-driven growth, and customer-centric value creation. Heather shares her insights on multisided business models through The Revenue Room™.

About Revenue Room™ CXO
Revenue Room™ CXO is a private executive community for CEOs and revenue-critical C-Suite leaders navigating growth in the data and AI economy. Through curated peer discussions and strategy sprints, members tackle real-world challenges in revenue transformation, customer intelligence, and business model innovation.

Learn more or apply for membership at info.h2klabs.com/apply-cxo.

In this episode of The Revenue Room Podcast, Heather Holst-Knudsen sits down with Diana Florescu, Founder and CEO of Media for Growth, to unpack one of the most powerful alternative funding models reshaping consumer brand growth and media monetization today: Media for Equity.

With more than 25 years of global precedent and recent expansion from Europe into the U.S., Media for Equity is gaining momentum as media companies and brands rethink capital efficiency, valuation, and long-term growth. Diana explains why this model is accelerating now, how it transforms underutilized media inventory into equity value, and why it offers a compelling path for both media owners and high-growth consumer brands.

WHY LISTEN

This episode is essential for executives who are:

• Exploring Media for Equity as a revenue or investment strategy
• Diversifying media revenue beyond traditional ad sales
• Supporting challenger brands without increasing cash burn
• Treating brand as a growth driver, not a cost center
• Navigating valuation, liquidity, and exit paths
• Turning underutilized media inventory into long-term equity value

If you’re a CEO, CRO, CFO, investor, or corporate development leader operating at the intersection of media, consumer growth, and capital strategy, this episode provides a practical framework for understanding Media for Equity and its role in modern revenue growth.

CONNECT WITH DIANA: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dianaflorescu

About RevvedUP 2026
RevvedUP 2026 is where CEOs and revenue-critical C-Suite leaders reset their growth playbook for the AI-first economy. Taking place March 23–24, 2026 at The Vinoy Resort in St. Petersburg, FL, this two-day strategy lab helps leaders pressure-test how AI moves from cost center to growth driver and turn data and disruption into competitive advantage.

About Heather Holst-Knudsen
Heather Holst-Knudsen is the founder and CEO of H2K Labs and Revenue Room™ Connect. A seasoned executive and operator across media, marketplaces, events, and technology, she specializes in digital transformation, data-driven growth, and customer-centric value creation. Heather shares her insights on multisided business models through The Revenue Room™.

About Revenue Room™ CXO
Revenue Room™ CXO is a private executive community for CEOs and revenue-critical C-Suite leaders navigating growth in the data and AI economy. Through curated peer discussions and strategy sprints, members tackle real-world challenges in revenue transformation, customer intelligence, and business model innovation.

Learn more or apply for membership at info.h2klabs.com/apply-cxo.

In this episode of The Revenue Room™, Heather Holst-Knudsen sits down with Christine Shaw, CEO and President of Naylor Association Solutions, to explore how modern associations are transforming their business models in a data-driven, AI-accelerated world. Christine shares how her leadership was shaped in high-velocity environments at PennWell and Future PLC, why clean data is the ultimate stabilizer in disruption, and how she built the business analyst role that now powers insights and decision-making across every organization she leads.

Christine breaks down the complexity of Naylor’s multi-line business—from member communications and job boards to AMS technology platforms—and explains how associations can stay relevant as generational shifts reshape how people consume information, learn, and build community. She also offers a candid look at how AI is transforming internal workflows, client-facing products, and the future of year-round member engagement.

Why listen

This episode is essential for leaders who are:
• Navigating the shift from legacy business models to intelligence-driven operations
• Building scalable, privacy-aware data foundations
• Managing complex multi-line revenue organizations
• Reimagining sales, marketing, and community engagement in an AI-first world
• Leading multi-generational teams through disruption
• Seeking a practical roadmap for modernizing associations, media companies, or membership-driven businesses

If you’re a CEO, CMO, CRO, association leader, or revenue-critical executive building for 2025 and beyond, Christine’s insights offer clarity, direction, and a blueprint for sustainable growth.

CONNECT WITH CHRISTINE SHAW

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christineashaw/

About RevvedUP 2026
RevvedUP 2026 is where CEOs and revenue-critical C-Suite leaders reset their growth playbook for the AI-first economy. Taking place March 23–24, 2026 at The Vinoy Resort in St. Petersburg, FL, this two-day strategy lab helps leaders pressure-test how AI moves from cost center to growth driver and turn data and disruption into competitive advantage.

About Heather Holst-Knudsen
Heather Holst-Knudsen is the founder and CEO of H2K Labs and Revenue Room™ Connect. A seasoned executive and operator across media, marketplaces, events, and technology, she specializes in digital transformation, data-driven growth, and customer-centric value creation. Heather shares her insights on multisided business models through The Revenue Room™.

About Revenue Room™ CXO
Revenue Room™ CXO is a private executive community for CEOs and revenue-critical C-Suite leaders navigating growth in the data and AI economy. Through curated peer discussions and strategy sprints, members tackle real-world challenges in revenue transformation, customer intelligence, and business model innovation.

Learn more or apply for membership at info.h2klabs.com/apply-cxo.