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This week's episode is a conversation with Sarah Patterson, prior Sergeant with LAPD. I first heard her story on The IA Guy podcast and was flabbergasted with what I heard. You can listen to that episode, after this one, here.

I reached out to her, not only because I wanted to be there for her...but also to share a type of transition story that has not yet been shared on this podcast, despite how often it seems to happen after 2020.

Sarah is not only a prior cop...she is a wife, mom, real estate agent, and law school student.

Sarah was one of those people who didn't grow up wanting to be a cop. She was a cross fitter and owned a Crossfit gym, where several LAPD worked out. One day, she was offered a ride along and that was all it took for her to get hooked!

Sarah loved the job and didn't mind working in the shit of things. She was promoted to Sergeant and that is when it happened...the start of her career ending.

What Sarah describes about the call that changed everything, is something almost every cop/Sergeant can relate to. It is something that so many have done. It is also something so many can't relate to at all. Sarah talks about the IA process and how it can leave you feeling left out to dry, feeling like a failure, confused, and encourages EVERYONE to know your policies and to ALWAYS get outside representation.

If this episode resonates with you, realize you are NOT alone and there are people out there who "get it." Sarah is willing to chat with you and DEBRIEF is always open to you.

If it does NOT resonate with you and/or you find it hard to believe, because it hasn't happened to you or someone you know...I'm glad it hasn't, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Ask yourself how we can ensure these things don't keep happening to good people.

Sarah has learned the hard way, what it's like to not have a backup plan and to prioritize the job over family and God. She now realizes her priorities were backwards and while the circumstances suck, she's thankful for the lessons.

Sarah is still in a fight to get her job back, despite having moved forward. Make sure you follow and connect with her on Instagram, here. She's already had so many reach out and share similar stories...which always helps the pain of sharing yours.

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This week's episode is a conversation with Cary Goldberg... a retired LEO, a veteran, and now the Director of Business Management with Starchase.

Cary walks us through his journey of growing up in Northern Virginia, realizing a four year university was not for him, joining the Marine Corps and going to the West coast, then transitioning into Law Enforcement and working for both municipal and county departments, and eventually retiring.

The turning point in Cary's career hit in 2020, for many reasons...which he talks about and deciding to retire, he had no plan other than he didn't want to work and did not want to stay in California. He and his wife sold everything and decided to RV across the country.

Like with so many retirees...that lasted six months. With no "home base" and structure, it was difficult, so they decided on a home base and he found a career that is adjacent to Law Enforcement.

Cary talks about how he once had work over family as the priority and how FAMILY is the priority. He also encourages others to work on becoming the best version of yourself. He also gave advice for those looking to transition..."don't pigeon hole yourself."

Make sure you follow and connect with Cary on LinkedIn, here.

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This week's episode is an incredible conversation with Dr. Erica Birkley, who was actually recommended by a prior guest and friend, Chris Perry. He credits Dr. Birkley with helping him heal and get to where he is. You can check out his episode, here.

There were sooo many notes from this episode that there is NO WAY to include them all, so I will suggest getting out a notebook while listening.

Dr. Birkley is a Psychologist in Cincinnati, who owns her own private group practice and specializes in working with first responders. Some of the things she does through her practice are outpatient PTSD treatment, clinical depression, critical incident response, psych testing for departments, and training.

Dr. Birkley trained at the VA and credits that training as a great training ground for first responders, she then worked at the University of Cincinnati Hospital treating first responders, where she realized a true passion for working with them. Treating PTSD, especially working with couples is her favorite modality. When she was confronted with the reality of not only being able to work with first responders through the hospital, she CHOSE to leave (without a plan, but a lot of faith) and start her own practice, so she could serve our community.

We discussed her "welcome to the field" moment, what patterns she sees in our law enforcement community, how important accountability is, the importance of different perspectives, and how a diagnosis (like PTSD) is NOT a life sentence.

Dr. Birkley shared stats and science that helped provide so much hope! She gives red flags for PTSD (listen to these!), realistic expectations for treatment, and gives tips for those moving into the transition to life after law enforcement.

You can connect with Dr. Birkley through her website, here.

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If you're looking to transition out of law enforcement in 2026...this episode is for YOU.

This week's episode is a chat with Courtney Lesiak, a former recruiter turned cop...and now former LEO, who's also a mom and wife to a now former cop, and embarking on a new career journey.

Courtney talks about being a recruiter and enjoying it, but not enjoying sitting at a cubicle all day...so she became a cop. She met her husband on the job and served 6.5 years before transitioning out in 2021, after having a child, child-care in a post-covid era, and getting turned down for a position.

She also talks about being a female on the job and how you are NOT the same cop you were before children, and the initial feeling of relief during the transition. She was able to land a job after leaving, due to running into an old co-worker who offered her a position. A reminder to NEVER burn bridges.

Courtney provides "insider info" and tips for job seeker... including things like being seen as a serious professional, looking outside of the traditional corporate security roles, and being more detailed on your resume. She also touches on the short term sacrifices often necessary for long term gains...something SOOO many in this profession NEED to hear and understand.

Make sure you connect with Courtney on LinkedIn, here.

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WE MADE IT!

Another year has come and gone, can you believe it?!

This is a solo episode that I thought would be about 20 minutes and ended up being 48-ish minutes because this topic gets me fired up. It may be helpful to have a notebook or the notes section of your phone handy as you listen to this one.

Like with every episode, but especially the solo episodes...take what resonates and leave the rest. This episode is all about closing out 2025 with reflections and intentions...VERSUS shame, guilt, and judgement.

I mention the three women below and/or their podcasts in the episode, as well as the F.I.T. Method Workbook I created for you...which you can get, here.

- Dr. Medina Baumgart (Police Psychologist & wife of retired LEO) - follow her on Instagram and check out her podcast, here.

- Dina Campbell (NYPD officer & LEO wife) - follow her on IG and check out podcast, here.

- Katherine Boyle (Daughter of retired Philly cop) - follow her on IG and check out her podcast, here.

One last reminder to close out the year...

You are NOT alone. You are NOT stuck. You are NOT "just a cop."

Cheers to a new year!

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This is a short and sweet episode, mainly thanking you for being here and wishing you a very Merry Christmas, along with a safe and happy New Year.

I share a couple of tips that can help during this season of hustle and bustle, including...gratitude, communication, and practicing the pause.

This season brings various emotions for everyone, and that is OKAY.

If you are full of the holiday spirit and joy...OWN IT. Live in that. Just because you have a tough job or those around you are in a tough season, doesn't mean you need to dim your light. SHINE ON!

If you are struggling in this season, for whatever reason...please know that you are NOT alone and I urge you to reach out to any number of resources NOW available.

National Suicide Prevention Hotline:
Dial 988

Copline: 1-800-COPLINE [267-5463]

First Responder Crisis Support Helpline:
1-844-550-HERO [4376]

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This week's episode is a chat with Patrick Faulkner, about his journey from law enforcement to entrepreneurship, due to an off duty injury.

Patrick is a prior LEO turned entrepreneur and podcast host of the Knock and Talk Show. He served 4 years in the US Air Force and after a year break, spent 16 years in law enforcement...in 4 different departments...before suffering an off duty injury that ended his career, without medical retirement.

Patrick touches on so many points that resonate with so many of the cops I've spoken to over the past 3 years. To name a few...

1. Depression (undiagnosed) cost him his marriage...once he admitted to being depressed, things changed.

2. Trauma bonding sucks you in...it doesn't actually help you.

3. He wanted out, but was good at what he did...so he felt torn.

4. Once he knew he was meant for more...he started planning.

The title of this episode is one phrase he said that stuck out the most and represents what Next Shift stands for...go build your tomorrow, today.

Make sure you connect with Patrick on LinkedIn and check out his podcast, here.

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This week's episode is a conversation with Destiny Morris, LMFT and it is another one that you are not going to want to miss! It took a direction I didn't expect it to, but I'm okay with it because I truly believe it is going to help so many.

Destiny is the daughter of a former cop, a dog mom, and a culturally competent licensed therapist. Due to the license she has, she can not only work with first responders, but also those working on marriage and family issues.

Destiny grew up in a first responder household, while in grad school she dated a fireman and saw what the job can do to someone (couples), she then worked in a mental health hospital, where she saw first responders being treated in general population...which didn't seem right to her...and that was when she knew she needed to work with first responders. She then became EMDR trained and a trauma informed therapist...with a first responder certification.

I asked Destiny to decode what the letters after her name and some of the others we currently see for those working with first responders, in the mental health space and to break down the process of starting/ending therapy, as well as digging into EMDR.

Throughout the episode, Destiny reminded listeners that we are all humans, not robots...which I love and say all the time. She talked about being open-minded and prepping your family for the effects therapy/EMDR may have on you. Another thing we discussed was how trauma is different for EVERYONE. She has an incredible analogy she uses, talking about a filing cabinet and I love the way she breaks it down. You can watch it, here.

We spent a LOT of the episode chatting all things EMDR...what it stands for, who it's for, how it helps, and so many other questions I had...trying to make it seem less "scary" to those who could benefit from it.

For those in transition, Destiny said identity work is the most important thing...being able to answer "who am I?" She also addressed some common issues seen/felt by first responders.

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