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  • IPO or DESPAC? The real answer is more nuanced than most founders realize.
    Feb 25 2026

    In this episode, host Chaz Churchwell interviews Peter Goldstein, founder of Exchange Listing and sponsor of Emmis Acquisition Corp.

    With over 25 years in capital markets, Peter shares a candid comparison between IPOs and DESPAC transactions. He explains why 80% of the preparation process is the same, but the engines driving each path are fundamentally different.

    Topics covered include:

    • Market-driven price discovery versus negotiated valuation
    • Why redemption risk is real and often misunderstood
    • Structural dilution and sponsor discipline
    • How to avoid inflated valuations that lead to post-close collapse
    • What foreign filers must understand before listing in the U.S.
    • Why public readiness should begin 12–24 months in advance
    • The importance of shareholder communication and long-term vision

    Peter emphasizes that going public is not about how you list. It’s about how you perform after the bell rings.

    For founders, executives, and boards evaluating a DESPAC or IPO, this episode offers practical insight grounded in real market cycles.

    If you want to understand the capital markets beyond headlines and hype, this conversation is essential listening.

    THE DESPAC PODCAST STANDARD LEGAL DISCLAIMER

    The DESPAC Podcast is for informational purposes only. The views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are their own and do not represent the views of Smooth Stone Capital, its affiliates, or any sponsoring organization.

    Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as legal advice, investment advice, tax advice, or a recommendation to pursue or avoid any transaction. Discussions may reference SPACs, DESPAC transactions, securities regulations, or public-company readiness frameworks. These conversations are educational in nature and should not be relied upon when making financial or strategic decisions.

    Listeners should consult qualified legal, financial, and tax professionals before acting on any information discussed in this podcast. Any examples or scenarios mentioned are illustrative and may not reflect current market conditions or regulatory requirements.

    Participation by a guest does not constitute an endorsement of any company, strategy, product, or service. References to specific firms or individuals are for context only.

    Smooth Stone Capital and the DESPAC Podcast disclaim all liability arising from the use of or reliance on the information presented.

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    46 min
  • Is Your DESPAC Built on Governance or Just Hype?
    Feb 23 2026

    In this international episode, Chaz Churchwell interviews Daniele D’Alvia, Director of the Banking and Finance Law Institute at Queen Mary University of London and founder of SPACs Consultancy.

    Daniele offers a global perspective on SPACs, examining the boom and bust cycle of 2020–2022 and what it revealed about governance, sponsor incentives, valuation discipline, and investor confidence.

    Key discussion points include:

    • Why redemptions are a vote of confidence
    • The role of governance in preventing litigation
    • How sponsor promotes should align with value creation
    • The structural evolution of SPAC regulation in the U.S.
    • Why cultural alignment between SPAC and target is critical
    • How crypto, stablecoins, and financial innovation are influencing the next phase of SPACs

    Daniele explains that SPACs are not inherently flawed. They are contractual instruments that reward discipline and punish overpromising.

    For private companies evaluating a DESPAC, this episode provides clarity on how to approach valuation, governance, sponsor selection, and long-term public-market readiness.

    If you want to understand SPACs beyond headlines and hype, this conversation delivers both academic depth and practical insight.

    THE DESPAC PODCAST STANDARD LEGAL DISCLAIMER

    The DESPAC Podcast is for informational purposes only. The views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are their own and do not represent the views of Smooth Stone Capital, its affiliates, or any sponsoring organization.

    Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as legal advice, investment advice, tax advice, or a recommendation to pursue or avoid any transaction. Discussions may reference SPACs, DESPAC transactions, securities regulations, or public-company readiness frameworks. These conversations are educational in nature and should not be relied upon when making financial or strategic decisions.

    Listeners should consult qualified legal, financial, and tax professionals before acting on any information discussed in this podcast. Any examples or scenarios mentioned are illustrative and may not reflect current market conditions or regulatory requirements.

    Participation by a guest does not constitute an endorsement of any company, strategy, product, or service. References to specific firms or individuals are for context only.

    Smooth Stone Capital and the DESPAC Podcast disclaim all liability arising from the use of or reliance on the information presented.

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    41 min
  • When Should IR Enter the DESPAC Process? The Answer Most CEOs Miss
    Feb 16 2026

    In this episode of The DESPAC Podcast, Chaz Churchwell interviews Jordan Darrow, founder of Darrow IR, to discuss the strategic role of Investor Relations in the DESPAC process.

    Jordan shares insight from representing SPAC sponsors and operating companies across multiple market cycles. He explains why IR should be engaged early, how investor positioning influences valuation, and why small-cap public companies require disciplined communication strategies to survive volatile markets.

    Topics include:

    • Timing IR engagement in a DESPAC
    • IR vs. PR: understanding the difference
    • CEO mindset and ego in public markets
    • Interest rate environments and small-cap performance
    • Capital access through SPAC vs. traditional IPO
    • How IR protects and enhances shareholder value

    This episode delivers a practical framework for leadership teams who want to transition from private to public with clarity and discipline.

    If you are evaluating a DESPAC or planning to go public, this conversation provides tactical insight you can apply immediately.

    THE DESPAC PODCAST STANDARD LEGAL DISCLAIMER

    The DESPAC Podcast is for informational purposes only. The views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are their own and do not represent the views of Smooth Stone Capital, its affiliates, or any sponsoring organization.

    Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as legal advice, investment advice, tax advice, or a recommendation to pursue or avoid any transaction. Discussions may reference SPACs, DESPAC transactions, securities regulations, or public-company readiness frameworks. These conversations are educational in nature and should not be relied upon when making financial or strategic decisions.

    Listeners should consult qualified legal, financial, and tax professionals before acting on any information discussed in this podcast. Any examples or scenarios mentioned are illustrative and may not reflect current market conditions or regulatory requirements.

    Participation by a guest does not constitute an endorsement of any company, strategy, product, or service. References to specific firms or individuals are for context only.

    Smooth Stone Capital and the DESPAC Podcast disclaim all liability arising from the use of or reliance on the information presented.

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    51 min
  • Why DESPACs Attract Litigation and How Leaders Defend Themselves
    Feb 9 2026

    Going public through a DESPAC puts companies under a spotlight most leaders underestimate.

    In this episode, we sit down with Jon Uretzky, founding partner of PULP Law Firm, one of the most recognized securities litigation firms in the microcap and small-cap markets.

    Jon explains why DESPAC transactions attract disproportionate regulatory and shareholder scrutiny, how SEC actions trigger cascading class-action lawsuits, and why FINRA’s Corporate Actions department can quietly derail post-DESPAC plans. This conversation gives leaders an unfiltered look at what actually happens after the deal closes.

    Key topics include:

    • Why DESPACs face elevated litigation risk
    • How SEC inquiries turn into shareholder lawsuits
    • The danger of “obey the law” injunctions without waivers
    • FINRA Corporate Actions and post-DESPAC delays
    • Why cap table cleanup matters before going public
    • How D&O insurance protects directors and officers
    • What strong legal defense really looks like in public markets

    If you are a founder, executive, or board member considering a DESPAC, this episode delivers critical insight you cannot afford to ignore.

    Subscribe for more conversations on public-company discipline and DESPAC readiness.

    YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@thedespacpodcast

    THE DESPAC PODCAST STANDARD LEGAL DISCLAIMER

    The DESPAC Podcast is for informational purposes only. The views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are their own and do not represent the views of Smooth Stone Capital, its affiliates, or any sponsoring organization.

    Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as legal advice, investment advice, tax advice, or a recommendation to pursue or avoid any transaction. Discussions may reference SPACs, DESPAC transactions, securities regulations, or public-company readiness frameworks. These conversations are educational in nature and should not be relied upon when making financial or strategic decisions.

    Listeners should consult qualified legal, financial, and tax professionals before acting on any information discussed in this podcast. Any examples or scenarios mentioned are illustrative and may not reflect current market conditions or regulatory requirements.

    Participation by a guest does not constitute an endorsement of any company, strategy, product, or service. References to specific firms or individuals are for context only.

    Smooth Stone Capital and the DESPAC Podcast disclaim all liability arising from the use of or reliance on the information presented.

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    45 min
  • What Transfer Agents Really Do and Why Communication Decides Outcomes
    Feb 2 2026

    In this episode, host Chaz Churchwell is joined by Seth Farbman, CEO of VStock Transfer, for a deep, practical discussion on the role transfer agents play in DESPAC transactions and ongoing public-company operations.

    Seth shares insight from decades in capital markets, explaining how transfer agents serve both issuers and shareholders, why communication failures create real financial risk, and how early preparation changes outcomes. From shareholder education and cap table management to visibility, trust, and long-term credibility, this episode highlights issues most private companies overlook.

    Topics include:

    • The real responsibilities of transfer agents
    • Why communication protects valuation and trust
    • How operational gaps surface after DESPACs
    • When companies should engage transfer agents
    • The importance of education and visibility in public markets

    This is a practical conversation for leaders who want fewer surprises and stronger execution as they enter the public markets.

    THE DESPAC PODCAST STANDARD LEGAL DISCLAIMER

    The DESPAC Podcast is for informational purposes only. The views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are their own and do not represent the views of Smooth Stone Capital, its affiliates, or any sponsoring organization.

    Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as legal advice, investment advice, tax advice, or a recommendation to pursue or avoid any transaction. Discussions may reference SPACs, DESPAC transactions, securities regulations, or public-company readiness frameworks. These conversations are educational in nature and should not be relied upon when making financial or strategic decisions.

    Listeners should consult qualified legal, financial, and tax professionals before acting on any information discussed in this podcast. Any examples or scenarios mentioned are illustrative and may not reflect current market conditions or regulatory requirements.

    Participation by a guest does not constitute an endorsement of any company, strategy, product, or service. References to specific firms or individuals are for context only.

    Smooth Stone Capital and the DESPAC Podcast disclaim all liability arising from the use of or reliance on the information presented.

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    34 min
  • What Private Companies Don’t Understand About SEC Filings
    Jan 26 2026

    In this episode, host Chaz Churchwell is joined by Elliot Goldstein of Federal Filings, a veteran EDGAR agent and capital markets operator, for a detailed conversation on the realities of SEC filings during DESPAC transactions.

    Elliot explains how filings are prepared, why formatting and XBRL tagging create risk, and where private companies consistently fall short when transitioning to public-company standards. From version control breakdowns to unrealistic timelines and surprise costs, this episode highlights the operational blind spots that derail deals and frustrate regulators.

    Topics include:

    • The true role of EDGAR agents and filing firms
    • Why timing and accuracy drive deal outcomes
    • How poor coordination leads to SEC scrutiny
    • The hidden costs private companies don’t plan for
    • Where AI helps and where it cannot replace human review
    • Why experienced partners matter before the deal closes

    This is a practical, experience-driven conversation for leaders who want fewer surprises and stronger execution as they prepare for the public markets.

    If you are evaluating a DESPAC or preparing for life as a public company, this episode delivers clarity you can use immediately.

    THE DESPAC PODCAST STANDARD LEGAL DISCLAIMER

    The DESPAC Podcast is for informational purposes only. The views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are their own and do not represent the views of Smooth Stone Capital, its affiliates, or any sponsoring organization.

    Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as legal advice, investment advice, tax advice, or a recommendation to pursue or avoid any transaction. Discussions may reference SPACs, DESPAC transactions, securities regulations, or public-company readiness frameworks. These conversations are educational in nature and should not be relied upon when making financial or strategic decisions.

    Listeners should consult qualified legal, financial, and tax professionals before acting on any information discussed in this podcast. Any examples or scenarios mentioned are illustrative and may not reflect current market conditions or regulatory requirements.

    Participation by a guest does not constitute an endorsement of any company, strategy, product, or service. References to specific firms or individuals are for context only.

    Smooth Stone Capital and the DESPAC Podcast disclaim all liability arising from the use of or reliance on the information presented.

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    32 min
  • Inside the Mind of a SPAC Sponsor: How Good Deals Get Done
    Jan 19 2026

    In this episode, we are joined by Long Long, a veteran SPAC sponsor and capital markets operator, for a deep discussion on what truly drives successful DESPAC transactions.

    Long shares his journey from corporate finance to leading SPACs and explains why many deals fail long before they ever reach the market. From lack of internal coordination and unrealistic expectations to poor governance and weak readiness, this episode breaks down the issues most private companies underestimate.

    Key topics include:

    • Why SPACs are not just deals but public companies in motion
    • The importance of internal ownership, cadence, and coordination
    • What SPAC teams look for in strong targets
    • How promote structures, warrants, and rights affect long-term value
    • Why public readiness failures lead to shareholder lawsuits
    • The mindset founders must adopt before going public

    This is a practical, experience-driven conversation for leaders who want to approach the public markets with discipline and clarity.

    If you are evaluating a DESPAC or preparing for life as a public company, this episode is essential listening.

    THE DESPAC PODCAST STANDARD LEGAL DISCLAIMER

    The DESPAC Podcast is for informational purposes only. The views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are their own and do not represent the views of Smooth Stone Capital, its affiliates, or any sponsoring organization.

    Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as legal advice, investment advice, tax advice, or a recommendation to pursue or avoid any transaction. Discussions may reference SPACs, DESPAC transactions, securities regulations, or public-company readiness frameworks. These conversations are educational in nature and should not be relied upon when making financial or strategic decisions.

    Listeners should consult qualified legal, financial, and tax professionals before acting on any information discussed in this podcast. Any examples or scenarios mentioned are illustrative and may not reflect current market conditions or regulatory requirements.

    Participation by a guest does not constitute an endorsement of any company, strategy, product, or service. References to specific firms or individuals are for context only.

    Smooth Stone Capital and the DESPAC Podcast disclaim all liability arising from the use of or reliance on the information presented.

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    53 min
  • What Breaks First After a DESPAC: The Deal or the Company?
    Jan 13 2026

    In this episode, host Chaz Churchwell is joined by securities attorney Morris Zarif, founder of Zarif Law Group, for a deep conversation on legal readiness, governance discipline, and the hidden risks private companies face when pursuing a DESPAC transaction.

    Morris brings more than a decade of capital markets experience and breaks down what he consistently sees go wrong for targets that wait too long to prepare. From corporate governance cleanup and IP ownership to board structure, diligence gaps, and cost surprises, this episode gives leaders a clear look at what actually matters before and after going public.

    Key topics include:

    • Litigation patterns emerging from DESPAC transactions
    • Why governance gaps derail deals and increase risk
    • How early legal preparation protects valuation
    • The importance of experienced advisors and consultants
    • Hidden costs beyond legal fees, including audit and D&O exposure
    • What founders must change in mindset to operate as a public company

    This is a practical, experience driven conversation designed to help private companies approach the public markets with discipline, clarity, and confidence.

    If you are considering a DESPAC or preparing for life as a public company, this episode is essential listening.

    THE DESPAC PODCAST STANDARD LEGAL DISCLAIMER

    The DESPAC Podcast is for informational purposes only. The views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are their own and do not represent the views of Smooth Stone Capital, its affiliates, or any sponsoring organization.

    Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as legal advice, investment advice, tax advice, or a recommendation to pursue or avoid any transaction. Discussions may reference SPACs, DESPAC transactions, securities regulations, or public-company readiness frameworks. These conversations are educational in nature and should not be relied upon when making financial or strategic decisions.

    Listeners should consult qualified legal, financial, and tax professionals before acting on any information discussed in this podcast. Any examples or scenarios mentioned are illustrative and may not reflect current market conditions or regulatory requirements.

    Participation by a guest does not constitute an endorsement of any company, strategy, product, or service. References to specific firms or individuals are for context only.

    Smooth Stone Capital and the DESPAC Podcast disclaim all liability arising from the use of or reliance on the information presented.

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    45 min