• Deal Makers - Is there really a buyer for every business?
    Apr 15 2026

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    What’s really happening in recruitment M&A right now?

    In this episode, Paul Masters from Sovereign Private joins us to unpack the shifting landscape of agency mergers and acquisitions across Australia in 2026.

    We explore why deal activity has slowed from the 2022–2023 highs, and why today’s transactions are increasingly favouring high-performing niche agencies over generalist firms. From valuation multiples to what “strong” actually looks like in the current market, this is a grounded look at how economic conditions are reshaping pricing and expectations.

    We also get into what really happens behind the scenes. How buyers stress test growth forecasts, why generic projections don’t hold up, and what a credible EBITDA bridge needs to demonstrate to make it through due diligence.

    Paul also explains the practicalities of deal structure, founder dependence, earnouts, and the critical role of a strong second-tier leadership team.

    Paul also shares a surprising insight from offshore buyers across Japan, Europe, and the US. If you’re thinking about growth, exit, or just want a clearer view of the market, tune in.

    Hosted by APSCo Australia's Lesley Horsburgh

    To learn more about APSCo Australia, head to au.apsco.org

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    52 min
  • Five Generations, One Workplace feat. Florence Potter and Richard Spencer
    Oct 21 2025

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    Five generations are now working shoulder to shoulder, and the old rules aren’t keeping up. We sit down with Florence Potter (No Umbrellas) and Richard Spencer (Age Inc.) to unpack what actually makes mixed-age teams thrive: clear norms, bias-aware hiring, and honest conversations about how people want to work.

    Florence lifts the lid on workshops that turn vague “culture” into practical agreements: how feedback happens, what professionalism looks like, when in-person time matters, even the unspoken coffee rules. Richard maps the bigger picture, from an aging workforce to the quiet ways ageism shows up in job ads, interview shortlists, and ATS training data. We explore how to redesign “entry-level” teams with seasoned talent, why reverse mentoring should run both directions, and how to shift recruiting to long-term workforce design.

    We share concrete moves to modernize hiring language, add intergenerational balance, and replace the golden rule with a smarter one: treat people how they want to be treated.

    If you care about retention, performance, and real inclusion, this conversation gives you tools to act today.

    To learn more about APSCo Australia, head to au.apsco.org

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    52 min
  • Episode 3: Deal Makers LIVE from Emerge 2025 - featuring Ged Mason OBE
    Jul 25 2025

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    In this special live edition, we’re joined by Ged Mason OBE, CEO of Morson Group, for a deep dive into what it really means to be a deal maker in today’s recruitment landscape.

    From his early days to building a billion-dollar powerhouse, Ged shares how he approaches relationships, opportunities, and big decisions – with the kind of insight you only get from years at the top.

    This is a rare and honest conversation with one of the most respected leaders in the business.

    Recorded live at Emerge 2025 and hosted by Lesley Horsburgh of APSCo Australia and Paul Masters from Sovereign Private.

    To learn more about APSCo Australia, head to au.apsco.org

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    43 min
  • Deal Makers - Episode 2
    Jun 6 2025

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    Welcome to Deal Makers – the podcast where recruitment meets real-world M&A.

    In this episode, we unpack the strategy behind some of the industry’s most talked-about deals – from billion-dollar healthcare mergers to niche perm businesses commanding sky-high multiples.

    Featuring Lesley Horsburgh from APSCo Australia and M&A expert Paul Masters, this is Episode 2 of Deal Makers.

    Watch the video podcast here

    To learn more about APSCo Australia, head to au.apsco.org

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    29 min
  • Deal Makers: M&A in the Australian staffing and recruitment market
    Apr 17 2025

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    Join Paul Masters from Sovereign Private and Lesley Horsburgh from APSCo Australia as they unpack the big moves in professional staffing M&A.

    Each month, we'll be diving into what's happening in the market - who's buying and where the deals are landing, how to get your business exit ready and the standout deals catching Paul's eye.

    Listen in to our first Deal Makers episode here via Recruitment Down Under - or watch the video podcast here

    To learn more about APSCo Australia, head to au.apsco.org

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    38 min
  • Building better recruiters: APSCo's new Professional Development initiative
    Apr 8 2025

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    🎙️ Welcome to Recruitment Down Under – brought to you by APSCo Australia.

    In this episode, we're diving into The Complete Recruiter – a brand-new training program designed specifically for recruitment professionals.

    You’ll hear from Russell Webb of Claverdon Consulting and Sophie Robertson from Younique Coaching – two experts who’ve brought their decades of experience together to create an 8-part series exclusively for APSCo members aimed at boosting capability, consistency, and confidence across the industry.

    We’ll unpack what’s in the program, who it’s for, and how it supports both new consultants and experienced recruiters looking to refresh their skills. Plus, we explore some key themes – like the differences between temp and perm desks, the challenges of dual desking, and how mindset plays a huge role in recruitment success.

    Whether you’re a team leader, a business owner, or a recruiter yourself – this is an episode you won’t want to miss.

    To learn more about APSCo Australia, head to au.apsco.org

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    53 min
  • 'No such thing as business as usual'. A discussion on the recruitment market with APSCo Global CEO, Ann Swain.
    Mar 14 2025

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    In this podcast episode, Lesley Horsburgh is joined by a very special guest on Recruitment Down Under - APSCo Global CEO Ann Swain, to discuss the European recruitment market and provide insights into how UK recruitment firms are responding within the current UK business environment.

    Thank you for listening to Recruitment Down Under and now here’s our host Lesley Horsburgh.

    To learn more about APSCo Australia, head to au.apsco.org

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    41 min
  • Transformative CRM strategies with Joe Duffy from TargetRecruit
    Nov 14 2024

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    Welcome to Recruitment Down Under. This episode features Joe Duffy from TargetRecruit Australia. Joe and APSCo's Lesley Horsburgh discuss the CRM market, Salesforce benefits, project management, collaboration, AI in Salesforce, and overall recruitment trends.

    This episode is packed with expert advice and practical tips for those looking to successfully master their CRM projects.


    To learn more about APSCo Australia, head to au.apsco.org

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    49 min