I’m back — and January was a wild one.

In this episode of Operation Be, I’m sharing what really happened behind the scenes: my mom’s knee replacement, getting Influenza A, both of my parents becoming seriously ill, hospital stays, rehab, endless tests, and navigating the stress of healthcare and family updates — all while running three companies.

But this isn’t just about what happened. It’s about what it revealed.

Years ago, this level of uncertainty would have sent me into panic, overwork, and burnout. This time, I practiced presence. I triaged what mattered. I listened to my body. I allowed emotions without spiraling.

We talk about nervous system regulation in real time, breaking old hypervigilant patterns, and how growth is revealed in chaos — not comfort.

If you’re navigating stress, caregiving, or uncertainty, this conversation will meet you where you are.

🎧 Press play. Let’s walk through it together.

00:30 Unexpected Break + Why January 2026 Felt So Wild

02:05 Twists and Turns

04:32 When Everything Snowballed

07:00 Running 3 Companies While Life Implodes (and Finally Getting Help)

09:02 The Real Lesson: Emotions, Standards, and Not Burning Yourself Out

11:13 Nervous System Regulation Tools

13:10 Hypervigilance, Surrender, and Listening to Your Body

17:27 What Practice Looks Like Now: Boundaries, Cues, and Daily Regulation

20:14 Wrap-Up, How to Reach Me + New Show Sponsors

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In this episode of Operation Be, I sit down with Pat Doyle for an honest, grounded conversation about growth, fatherhood, and what it really means to show up as a man today. Pat’s journey—from professional baseball to mortgage lending, podcasting, and parenting—has been shaped by real-life experiences that forced him to slow down, reflect, and evolve.

We talk openly about mental health, emotional intelligence, and the responsibility that comes with being a present father and a self-aware leader. Pat shares how navigating divorce changed the way he approaches parenting, personal accountability, and his own inner work—and why choosing growth over ego has mattered more than anything.

This episode is about aligning purpose with practice, learning from life instead of running from it, and understanding that clarity doesn’t come from having all the answers—it comes from being willing to look inward.

Whether you’re a parent, a professional, or someone committed to doing the work to live with more intention, this conversation offers perspective, honesty, and a reminder that growth is always available when you choose it.

🎧Check it out today!

01:53 The Zach and Pat Show

03:21 Fatherhood and Personal Growth

06:00 Navigating Divorce and Co-Parenting

08:58 Relationships and Emotional Intelligence

20:44 The Importance of Vulnerability

28:22 Using Social Media for Business and Personal Growth

31:30 The Identity Crisis for Men

32:06 Comfort in Solitude

32:50 Promoting Positive Masculinity

34:11 The Impact of Toxic Labels

35:32 The Importance of Listening

37:02 Building Community and Values

44:20 Rapid Fire Questions

Connect with Pat:

https://www.youtube.com/@TheZachandPatShow

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In this episode of Operation Be, I welcome the magnetic and mission-driven Jessica McTaggart, owner of The Curl Sanctuary in St. Louis. What begins as a conversation, becomes a full-bodied journey through Jessica’s evolution from a makeup counter employee to a leader reshaping the curly hair industry from the inside out.

We wander through the origin story of The Curl Sanctuary, the philosophy that fuels it, and the intention-packed choices that turned it into a safe haven for natural curls and the people who wear them.

We dig into what it takes to build a purpose-driven business: the quiet bravery of saying no, the courage to create a culture that feels like home, and the discipline required to grow without losing yourself in the process.

Jessica also opens up about training new stylists, honoring boundaries, and protecting the harmony between work, artistry, and real life. Expect heartfelt stories, grounded wisdom, and a look behind the curtain at what authenticity in leadership truly looks like.

If you’re building something that matters, or simply craving a reminder that intention is a superpower, this episode delivers.

🎧Tune in. Fill up. And be inspired to build your world with purpose. 💫

00:21 Meet Jessica McTaggart: Visionary Behind The Curl Sanctuary

02:25 The Journey to The Curl Sanctuary

07:42 Transformations and Client Stories

12:38 Building a Business with Integrity and Intention

28:47 The Importance of Mentorship and Community

37:05 The Importance of Community and Support

38:04 Intentional Living and Personal Growth

40:23 Building a Business with Faith

55:50 Navigating Personal and Professional Boundaries

01:01:57 Reflecting on Success and Future Goals

01:04:57 Final Thoughts and Farewell

Connect with Jessica:

https://curlsanctuary.com/

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https://www.instagram.com/thecurlsanctuary/

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