Davit Souders, Curley's, IKON 2.0, & The Hive

Oklahoma's underground music scene had some legendary venues, and this one went through several changes.

May 11, 2006.

The Hive.

But before it was The Hive, it was Curley's.

Then Davit Souders took over and turned it into IKON 2.0.

That did not last long.

Maybe six to nine months.

Then it became The Hive.

The guys remember how Davit tried to bring back the magic of the original IKON, booking industrial acts and underground bands.

But something was different.

The original IKON was a smaller room, several blocks away.

IKON 2.0 was huge.

And as the guys explain, you do not book up-and-coming underground bands in a massive room.

You put them in a smaller club where the crowd and energy fit.

Davit also worked closely with Larry Schaefer, who helped provide a place for shows that were too big for IKON.

After IKON closed, Davit continued working with Larry at The Caves.

And according to the guys, Davit is still involved in the music business today.

Curley's.

IKON 2.0.

The Hive.

Different names, different eras, and another piece of Oklahoma concert history worth remembering.

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Ever wonder where the money goes when you buy a VIP concert experience?

The guys break down the business behind meet and greets, VIP packages, and all that exclusive concert merchandise.

According to Max, VIP experiences are often handled by a completely separate company.

Not the venue.

Not the band's booking agent.

And not necessarily the same people handling regular concert merchandise.

But here is the catch.

You still need a concert ticket to participate.

So first, you buy your ticket.

Then you pay extra for the VIP experience.

And once you are in, you have to follow the rules.

Many VIP packages also come with special swag bags.

Tour shirts.

Posters.

Bandanas.

Exclusive merchandise.

Sometimes even coupons to use at the merch booth.

And that creates another interesting problem.

If you already received a free T-shirt with your VIP package, are you really going to buy another one at the show?

That is where VIP packages and regular merchandise sales start affecting each other.

Different companies.

Different revenue streams.

And a whole lot more business behind your concert experience than most fans realize.

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Some songs are so good they just keep winning.

And apparently, Guns N’ Roses had one of those songs.

The guys remember when “Sweet Child O’ Mine” was so popular that it kept winning a radio countdown or competition week after week.

Eventually, someone decided it had won enough times and needed to be retired.

But not everybody was happy about that.

Who retires a song like “Sweet Child O’ Mine”?

The memory goes all the way back to hearing Appetite for Destruction for the first time.

When “Sweet Child O’ Mine” started playing, the reaction was immediate.

The headphones came off.

And the words were simple.

“This is the best song ever, ever, ever.”

So when the song got retired from the competition, it felt completely wrong.

But looking back, having your song retired because it won too many times is actually a pretty incredible honor.

Guns N’ Roses.

Appetite for Destruction.

“Sweet Child O’ Mine.”

Some songs are just too good to compete with.

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