Warning: This episode deals with family violence. If you find it distressing or need support, you can call 1800 RESPECT (1800 737 732).

Wynetta Dewis is a proud Torres Strait Islander woman and the CEO of the Queensland Indigenous Family Violence Legal Service (QIFVLS). She is also chair of National Family Violence Prevention Legal Services and the Joint Council Representative for Queensland on Closing the Gap.

In the season finale of 'Listen Learn Respect', Wynetta speaks with Jess about Closing the Gap Target (13): Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander families and households are safe.

Listen Learn Respect is the National Apology Foundation’s motto – and the name of this podcast. The not-for-profit foundation was set up after Prime Minister Kevin Rudd left politics to monitor progress in Closing the Gap between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians. In this series of Listen, Learn, Respect, host and National Apology Foundation co-chair Jessica Rudd takes a closer look at some of these targets with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people who are working to close the gap. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the land on which we work – the Turrbal and Jagera peoples – and the Traditional Owners of the lands you are listening on. Feedback: info@nationalapology.org.au

Credits Host: Jessica Rudd. Executive Producer: Melanie Arnost. Music: Tioli by RONA. Recording: River City Studios.

Warning: This episode includes some non-graphic discussion of family violence and post-traumatic stress. If you need support, help is available through 1800RESPECT (1800 737 732).

Tanya McDonald is a proud Kirrae Whurrong, Gundijitmarra, Gunai Kurnai woman, and Workplace Assessor in Children, Health and Community at Charles Darwin University in Alice Springs.Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander students reach their full potential through further education pathways.Tanya speaks with Jess about Closing the Gap targets: (6) students reach their full potential through further education pathways; and (7) youth are engaged in employment or education.

Listen Learn Respect is the National Apology Foundation’s motto – and the name of this podcast. The not-for-profit foundation was set up after Prime Minister Kevin Rudd left politics to monitor progress in Closing the Gap between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians. In this series of Listen, Learn, Respect, host and National Apology Foundation co-chair Jessica Rudd takes a closer look at some of these targets with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people who are working to close the gap. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the land on which we work – the Turrbal and Jagera peoples – and the Traditional Owners of the lands you are listening on. Feedback: info@nationalapology.org.au

Credits Host: Jessica Rudd. Executive Producer: Melanie Arnost. Music: Tioli by RONA. Recording: River City Studios.

Corey Tutt is a Kamilaroi man from NSW and a champion for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people in science, technology, engineering and mathematics (STEM). Corey speaks with Jess about Closing the Gap target (5) Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander students achieve their full learning potential and related targets.

As a young person, Corey developed a love of STEM subjects but found little encouragement for Aboriginal people to pursue careers in STEM. In 2018, Corey founded DeadlyScience, a not-for-profit organisation that provides STEM resources to remote schools in Australia and connects young Indigenous people with STEM professionals.

Listen Learn Respect is the National Apology Foundation’s motto – and the name of this podcast. The not-for-profit foundation was set up after Prime Minister Kevin Rudd left politics to monitor progress in Closing the Gap between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians. In this series of Listen, Learn, Respect, host and National Apology Foundation co-chair Jessica Rudd takes a closer look at some of these targets with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people who are working to close the gap. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the land on which we work – the Turrbal and Jagera peoples – and the Traditional Owners of the lands you are listening on. Feedback: info@nationalapology.org.au

Credits Host: Jessica Rudd. Executive Producer: Melanie Arnost. Music: Tioli by RONA. Recording: River City Studios.

Natalie Bryant is a Sir Roland Wilson Pat Turner PhD Scholar and a Yuin woman from NSW. Her doctoral research asks: what could Indigenous self-determination do for Australia’s hospital system? Natalie speaks with Jess about Closing the Gap target (1) everyone enjoys long and healthy lives; and priority area (3) transforming government organisations.

Pat Turner sits on the National Apology Foundation board and is CEO of the National Aboriginal Community Controlled Health Organisation (NACCHO), the peak body for Aboriginal Community Controlled Health Organisations (ACCHOs). Information about the Sir Roland Wilson Pat Turner Scholarship is available on the ANU’s website.

In this episode, we play a short grab from former health minister Nicola Roxon in 2010 talking about Indigenous health in the context of the Rudd government's response to the National Health and Hospitals Reform Commission. You can find her full quotes here.

Listen Learn Respect is the National Apology Foundation’s motto – and the name of this podcast. The not-for-profit foundation was set up after Prime Minister Kevin Rudd left politics to monitor progress in Closing the Gap between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians. In this series of Listen, Learn, Respect, host and National Apology Foundation co-chair Jessica Rudd takes a closer look at some of these targets with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people who are working to close the gap. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the land on which we work – the Turrbal and Jagera peoples – and the Traditional Owners of the lands you are listening on. Feedback: info@nationalapology.org.au

Credits Host: Jessica Rudd. Executive Producer: Melanie Arnost. Music: Tioli by RONA. Recording: River City Studios. Audio grabs courtesy: Seven Network, Australian News Channel & Reconciliation Australia.

Muriel Bamblett is a Yorta Yorta and Dja Dja Wurrung woman who has been CEO of the Victorian Aboriginal Child Care Agency since 1999. She also chairs SNAICC, the peak body representing Indigenous child and family services nationally, among other positions. She speaks with Jess about Closing the Gap target 12: Children are not overrepresented in the child protection system. Information about Muriel is available on VACCA's website.

Listen Learn Respect is the National Apology Foundation’s motto – and the name of this podcast. The not-for-profit foundation was set up after Prime Minister Kevin Rudd left politics to monitor progress in Closing the Gap between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians. In this series of Listen, Learn, Respect, host and National Apology Foundation co-chair Jessica Rudd takes a closer look at some of these targets with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people who are working to close the gap. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the land on which we work – the Turrbal and Jagera peoples – and the Traditional Owners of the lands you are listening on. Feedback: info@nationalapology.org.au

Credits Host: Jessica Rudd. Executive Producer: Melanie Arnost. Music: Tioli by RONA. Recording: River City Studios. News grab courtesy of: ABC Radio Current Affairs

Laura McBride is the Director, First Nations at the Australian Museum in Sydney. A Wailwan woman, she leads the First Nations strategic direction and operations and also manages the Archaeology, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander and Pasifika cultural collections. She speaks with Jess about the following Closing the Gap targets: (15) People maintain a distinctive cultural, spiritual, physical and economic relationship with their land and waters; and (16) Cultures and languages are strong, supported and flourishing. Information about Australian Museum's work is available on their website.

Listen Learn Respect is the National Apology Foundation’s motto – and the name of this podcast. The not-for-profit foundation was set up after Prime Minister Kevin Rudd left politics to monitor progress in Closing the Gap between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians. In this series of Listen, Learn, Respect, host and National Apology Foundation co-chair Jessica Rudd takes a closer look at some of these targets with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people who are working to close the gap. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the land on which we work – the Turrbal and Jagera peoples – and the Traditional Owners of the lands you are listening on. Feedback: info@nationalapology.org.au

Credits Host: Jessica Rudd. Executive Producer: Melanie Arnost. Music: Tioli by RONA. Recording: River City Studios.

Joshua Creamer is a Waanyi and Kalkadoon barrister, and Alicia George is the inaugural recipient of a new Griffith University law scholarship. They speak with Jess about the following Closing the Gap targets: (7) Youth are engaged in employment or education; (10) Adults are not overrepresented in the criminal justice system; (11) Young people are not overrepresented in the criminal justice system; and (15) People maintain a distinctive cultural, spiritual, physical and economic relationship with their land and waters. Information about the Joshua Creamer and Kara Cook Excellence in Law Award is available on the Griffith University website.

In this episode, Josh describes First Nations women being misidentified as perpetrators under Queensland's newly expanded definitions of domestic violence. The state Women's Safety and Justice Taskforce recommended in 2021 that the government "immediately progress amendments to the definition of ‘domestic violence’ ... to make it clear that domestic violence includes coercive control and can be a series or combination of acts, omissions or circumstances over time, in the context of the relationship as a whole". The legislation was passed in 2022.

The taskforce also recommended laws criminalising coercive control not proceed until there is "a specific whole-of-government and community strategy to address the over-representation of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples in Queensland’s criminal justice system and meet Queensland’s Closing the Gap justice targets". The government's latest annual update in May 2023 said it could do both simultaneously: ""Work has commenced with a strong focus on strengthening partnerships with Queensland Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Coalition members. This is a critical first step for co-design of the justice strategy. A First Nations Justice Officer has been appointed, and a First Nations Justice Office established, to lead development of the justice strategy."

Listen Learn Respect is the National Apology Foundation’s motto – and the name of this podcast. The not-for-profit foundation was set up after Prime Minister Kevin Rudd left politics to monitor progress in Closing the Gap between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians. In this series of Listen, Learn, Respect, host and National Apology Foundation co-chair Jessica Rudd takes a closer look at some of these targets with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people who are working to close the gap. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the land on which we work – the Turrbal and Jagera peoples – and the Traditional Owners of the lands you are listening on. Feedback: info@nationalapology.org.au

Credits Host: Jessica Rudd. Executive Producer: Melanie Arnost. Music: Tioli by RONA. Recording: River City Studios. News grabs courtesy of: 7 News and 10 News

Introducing Listen Learn Respect – a new podcast from the National Apology Foundation.

Over this series, co-chair Jessica Rudd will drill into Australia's drive to close the gap in advantage between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians by hearing the perspectives of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people working on the front lines. The not-for-profit foundation was set up after Prime Minister Kevin Rudd left politics to monitor progress in Closing the Gap, which now has 19 official targets.

This podcast is recorded in Meanjin/Brisbane. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners of this land – the Turrbal and Jagera people – and the Traditional Owners of the lands you are listening on. Feedback: info@nationalapology.org.au

CREDITS Host: Jessica Rudd. Executive Producer: Melanie Arnost. Music: Tioli by RONA. Recorded at: River City Studios