• 79. Brick Updates, The Enhanced Games, and Coach/Influencer Transparency
    Jun 5 2026

    Kelly and JK start with both sharing updates on using Brick, a physical device that blocks apps/websites until you tap the phone to it. JK also announces Help Me Understand will relaunch in July back to broader topics while he starts a new fitness-focused podcast, Make Fitness Make Sense. They then discuss the Enhanced Games and debate whether coaches/influencers should disclose use of PEDs, HRT, fat burners, peptides, or GLP-1s, referencing a GLP-1 disclosure controversy and advising people to look for long-form content to vet consistency and context.


    00:20 Episode 79 Topic Tease

    01:11 Kelly Brick Explained

    07:21 JK Brick Review

    15:05 Podcast Relaunch Plans

    19:19 Enhanced Games Overview

    25:53 Enhanced Games Reactions

    33:39 Can Drugs Break Records

    36:11 Optimization Manosphere Angle

    37:14 Disclosure Rules For Influencers

    45:53 Coaches PEDs And Trust

    47:10 GLP-1 Controversy Case Study

    50:23 How To Vet Fitness Claims

    52:08 Wrap Up And Contact Info


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    53 min
  • 78. Mile Time Trials, Brick & Being “Fit Enough”
    May 22 2026

    Kelly and JK open with quick life and training updates, including a recent track session that turned into a hard mile effort and early impressions of using the Brick device to curb phone and social-media habits. From there, they introduce a broader conversation about what it means to be in a “good place” with fitness and discuss how different environments and platforms can shape self-perception. They close with a few practical ideas for keeping comparison in check and building a clearer personal definition of progress.


    Timestamps:

    01:45 Chicago Trips and Heel Rehab

    03:03 Birthday Mile Time Trial

    11:37 JK Update The Brick Device

    24:14 Main Topic What Is Fit Enough

    26:07 When Fitness Feels Enough

    26:34 Defining a Good Place

    34:55 Fitness for Real Life

    37:41 Strava Comparison Spiral

    40:23 Exposure Changes Standards

    48:13 Practical Tips and Wrap



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    53 min
  • 77. Did their Shoes End her Career? Abby vs Puma
    May 8 2026

    In episode 77, Kelly recaps a short Chicago work trip, says she’s pausing Runna for at least a month due to slow-healing heel/Achilles pain, and shares that keeping her phone “bricked” during travel felt helpful. JK updates on a week in Alabama, including a stop at Buc-ee’s, training at well-equipped Armor Gym, and accidentally switching to a lower/upper split. The main topic is sprinter Abby Steiner’s April 2026 lawsuit against Puma and Mercedes, alleging carbon plate and Nitrofoam footwear altered her biomechanics, led to repeated foot injuries and surgeries, and may have ended her career, prompting discussion of super shoes, injury risk, and what evidence could surface via discovery or settlement.



    01:13 Chicago Trip Recap

    06:40 Runna Break and Heel Pain

    14:46 Alabama Trip and Brunch

    16:42 Why Buc-ees Rules

    22:44 Gym Gear and Training Split

    27:31 Steiner Lawsuit Overview

    29:20 Timeline And Stakes

    31:17 What Are Super Shoes

    32:34 Injury Patterns And Training Load

    43:29 Defect Claims And Reporting

    01:00:32 Wrap Up And Sign Off



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  • 76. Nike’s Backlash + What Counts as Real Recovery?
    Apr 24 2026

    In episode 76 of “Lifting, Running, and Living,” Kelly and JK share updates and discuss two topics: Nike’s marketing backlash and recovery versus active recovery. Kelly reviews the “Brick” and mentions an upcoming work trip to Chicago and debates whether to bring the Brick. JK shares an “April Unplugged” community challenge to eat at least one screen-free meal daily and describes a 14-day dopamine detox aimed at reducing consumption and improving content creation. They then cover Nike’s Boston Marathon-adjacent “Runners welcome, walkers tolerated” sign and similar UK messaging, and finally debate what truly qualifies as active recovery, emphasizing scheduled rest and avoiding “active recovery” as an excuse to skip real days off.


    00:00 Welcome and agenda

    01:07 Brick phone blocker explained

    05:00 Chicago work trip plans

    12:15 April Unplugged challenge

    15:55 Dopamine detox for creators

    20:25 Quick extra update niece birthday

    21:26 Nike Boston sign backlash

    27:34 Is Nike shifting its culture

    30:15 Nike Runner Image Shift

    32:00 Nike Controversy History

    37:14 Parkrun Billboard Backlash

    38:49 Defining Active Recovery

    41:40 Rest Day Versus Movement

    44:31 Strava And Rest Guilt

    50:26 Scheduling Recharge Days

    55:54 Earn Your Rest Mindset

    01:00:05 Kids Never Stop Playing

    01:04:06 Wrap Up And Contact


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  • 75. Pregnancy and Athletic Contracts
    Apr 10 2026

    Kelly and JK celebrate episode 75 and share training updates: Kelly recaps a March 28 two-mile race and notes issues with the Runna app. JK reports recommitting to priming and short recovery circuits after lifts, reframing rest days as “recharge” days, and separating recovery as part of training strategy rather than sleep. They then discuss controversy around marathoner Emma Bates being dropped by nutrition brand UCAN after revealing she was pregnant, including disputed contract/negotiation timing, reduced offers, PR implications, contractor protections, and whether sponsorship type affects pregnancy support.


    00:00 Episode 75 Kickoff

    01:29 Updates And Controversy Tease

    01:54 Kelly Two Mile Race Recap

    11:19 Runna App Frustrations

    16:51 JK Recovery Work Recommitment

    28:22 Courtroom Streams And Lunch Breaks

    32:06 Unedited Reality Moments

    32:35 Desensitized To Crime

    34:57 Living Abroad Perspective

    37:35 Pivot To Fitness Talk

    37:58 Emma Bates Sponsor Dispute

    43:43 Brand Nuance And PR

    51:29 Contract Terms And Workload

    01:00:49 Contractor Protections And Abercrombie

    01:07:02 Wrap Up And Where To Find Us


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    1 ora e 8 min
  • 74. Recreational Runners Don’t Need to Strength Train?
    Mar 27 2026

    Kelly and JK start episode 74 after switching podcast platforms and share updates after several weeks. Kelly mentions her husband Ty’s birthday, reviews her first month using an Oura Ring, and describes adding regular after-work “evening commute” walks. She also gives a brief running update ahead of an upcoming two-mile race. JK shares a short training update about lifting and cardio. They spend the rest of the episode discussing a Threads post claiming recreational runners don’t need strength training, walking through common arguments and their thoughts, and close with where to find the show online.


    00:51 Episode 74 Updates Return

    01:35 Birthday Shoutout and Lifting Seeds

    03:02 Oura Ring First Impressions

    07:03 HSA Approval and Cost Comparison

    09:33 Evening Commute Walk Habit

    15:25 Running Training and Achilles Flare

    19:37 JK Training Remix and Consistency

    27:18 Threads Take Runners Stop Lifting

    32:29 Debate Begins Specificity Argument

    34:27 Specificity Versus Strength

    36:11 Survivorship Bias Reality

    38:30 Periodize Your Training

    39:33 Time Recovery Tradeoffs

    46:08 Recreational Runner Myths

    49:04 Running Is Not Strength

    52:38 Anecdotes Aren't Evidence

    56:57 Soreness Fear And Context

    59:58 Gym Judgment Thread Story

    01:05:54 Social Media Fills Blanks

    01:08:54 Lift Weights Touch Grass


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  • 73. AR Running Glasses, LA Marathon, and US Half Marathon Champs Controversy
    Mar 13 2026

    In episode 73 of Lifting, Running, and Living, Kelly and JK skip updates to jump right into topics, starting with Minimus Flow augmented reality sports sunglasses that combine watch/phone/bike-computer features for about $699. They then recap the 2026 LA Marathon men’s photo finish and discuss a heat policy allowing runners to stop at 18 miles and still get a medal. Finally, they cover the US Half Marathon Championships in Atlanta, where top women were led off course after cones were moved during a police-officer emergency and what has ensued since.


    00:00 Episode Kickoff

    00:58 AR Glasses Explained

    06:06 Would Runners Use It

    09:48 Market Fit And Price

    17:21 LA Marathon Photo Finish

    23:46 Heat Policy Medal Debate

    28:48 US Half Champs Controversy

    34:34 Finish Line Chaos

    35:15 USATF Statement Fallout

    37:31 Why Not Fix Results

    40:18 ATC Explains Misroute

    40:43 How Cones Got Moved

    50:46 Who Should Know Course

    54:31 Honorary Podium Update

    56:28 Precedent and Legal Fears

    57:13 Sports Call Comparison

    01:00:23 World Team Stakes

    01:05:14 PR Spin and Wrap Up

    01:07:09 Final Sign Off


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  • 72. Exploring Fitness, Fame, and Integrity with Joy Parrish
    Feb 27 2026

    The hosts of “Lifting, Running, and Living” welcome back Joy Parrish, a longtime podcaster and mental health therapist. After a brief discussion about Joy’s recent donkey run, they dig into how to evaluate wellness/fitness figures when their names or associations surface in scandals, using Peter Attia’s appearance in the Epstein files as context. Joy emphasizes ethics, “do no harm,” bystander responsibility, and accountability, critiques Attia’s PR response, and explains why his medical background (including not being board certified) matters in public perception. The conversation broadens to locker-room talk, microaggressions, and ingroup/outgroup bias, then closes with how the hosts draw firmer lines with influencers and prioritize values and accountability over persona.


    00:00 IRL Pod Reunion

    01:28 Meet Joy Parrish

    05:57 Attia and Epstein Files

    19:14 PR Breakdown Takeaways

    25:00 Locker Room Talk Rant

    30:51 Microaggressions and Bystanders

    34:44 Waiting For The Facts

    38:06 Calm Confrontation Tactics

    40:25 Ingroup Bias And Identity

    42:48 Drawing Lines With Experts

    45:06 Influencer Worship And Grifts

    53:46 Fitness Claims And Vulnerability

    54:52 Manifestation Coaching Critique

    58:44 Tyra Banks And Accountability

    01:01:26 Closing Thoughts And Wrap Up


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    1 ora e 8 min