Welcome Elana Rugh to the podcast!

Elana is the CEO of the Detroit Historical Society, where she oversees a team of 80 and manages some of the most important cultural landmarks in the country. We dove deep into what it actually looks like to be a "human-centered" leader and how to navigate the "invisible burden" of caring for your people.

Plus, Elana talks about the importance of carving guilt-free time for yourself, listening to your gut when it comes to delivering tough news and how publicly sharing her story of being an adoptee has opened new doors of vulnerability.

Elana reminds us of the best leadership advice ever: to be kind and to be ourselves.

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Read her story about adoption

Check out the book: Speed of Trust

And visit the Detroit Historical Society next time you're in town!

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Jenna jumps on to let us know she's taking a short break to cross the Atlantic and galavant through Europe with her sister. Plus, she shares highlights from the "Choose your WHOLE Self" workshop.

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Between the wintery winter and relentless news cycle, our nervous systems are being pushed to the limit.

When we're overwhelmed, it can feel impossible to make decisions around what makes us feel better.

In this episode, Jenna introduces the Feel-Good Menu—a personalized repository of antidotes for anxiety, sadness, and overstimulation. From "sensation showers" to the healing power of Catherine O’Hara clips, it’s time to stop asking for permission to feel good and start making it a daily requirement.

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Welcome Mel Andersen!

Mel’s story isn't just about surviving breast cancer; it’s about coming face-to-face with the delicate complexity of the "both/and" of life. How we can be grieving a career while also fighting for our health? How we can find humility without minimizing our own pain?

In this interview, Mel openly shares her experiences with grief, burnout from a job she loved, the emotional hurdles that come after chemo and the joy of becoming a master gardener.

Mel talks about using writing to process her emotions during cancer and her recently published personal essay, and gives us all advice for how we can support people in our lives who may be living with a cancer diagnosis.

Plus, Jenna shares her thoughts on the troubling state of the world and uses more f-bombs than usual.

Links mentioned in today's show:

• Rising Above: Our Transformational Journey to Wholeness After Breast Cancer by Gillian Lichota and co-authors

• I Rise Above Foundation

• Follow Barley the Wheaton Terrier

• Check out Mel on Instagram and find her on Substack @melandersen

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We’ve all been there: staring at a wall, feeling like we don’t know what we’re doing, and waiting for a "burst of confidence" to save us. But what if confidence isn't something you find, but something you build by simply showing up - even when you're uncertain?

In this episode, Jenna talks about the mindset that makes some people appear more confident than others and explores confidence is actually a byproduct of courage—not a prerequisite for action.

Learn the four simple steps to boost your confidence this week, how to escape the comparison trap, and why "braving it" is always better than "faking it." Plus, Jenna shares one silly thing that scares her and tests her confidence every darn time she does it.

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Welcome Jerry Jones back to the podcast!

In this conversation, Jenna and Jerry not only have vulnerable conversations about fear and uncertainty heading into 2026, but also about grocery stores and a hit Paramount+ show.

Jerry shares how he is leading a team in the ever-changing public health landscape, as well as the leadership qualities needed to help high-perfoming teams continue to thrive.

Plus, Jenna and Jerry dive into the latest season of Stranger Things, exploring dark nuances of the character Vecna, and ways we can all confront our inner demons and become bigger than our fears.

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Happy new year! Jenna reflects on her New Year celebrations and the embraces anti-social behaviors after a very peopley December.

Jenna teaches how to name our internal wins for the year and introduces us to the book "The Desire Map," which helps us name the core desired feelings we want to cultivate in the year ahead.

Plus, Jenna shares her recent experiences with ketamine-assisted psychotherapy and the insights it's given her, specifically about the self-trust that comes from getting super duper clear on your "ground level."

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It's the darkest week of the year and we are here for it!

Jenna talks about ways we can use the winter solstice to enjoy the stillness, reflect on highs and lows of the year and just BE.

Plus, she talks about the magic of the holiday season, sequined clothes, cheesy holiday movies, potato beds, TV theme songs and lots more.

Jenna has a special holiday gift for you! Click here to get your guided solstice meditation, reflection prompts and a list of her fave rituals.

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