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Have Toga, Will Travel

Have Toga, Will Travel

Di: Emily Jusino PhD (Classics) and Cam Hawkins PhD (Ancient History)
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A podcast exploring the Mediterranean world, ancient and modern, through the eyes of two former Classics professors. Join Emily and Cam as they chat about all things ancient and share their own adventures exploring the Mediterranean world through history, travel, literature, and film. We release new episodes on or about the 1st and 15th of every month. https://havetogawilltravel.comCopyright 2025 Emily Jusino and Cam Hawkins Mondiale Scienze sociali Scrittura e commenti di viaggio
  • Aeschylus' "Persians": The OG Greek Tragedy
    Jan 17 2026

    Emily and Cam break down “The Persians”—the oldest surviving Greek tragedy, which offers a surprisingly sympathetic take on the enemies of Athens.

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    Cover photo adapted from an image by Ziegler175:

    1. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SalamisPaloukiaSchlacht2.jpg


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    00:10 - Introduction

    01:43 - Aeschylus and his historical context

    1. 01:56 - The subject of the play (and its peculiarity)
    2. 03:06 - The Battle of Salamis and the Persian Wars
    3. 05:10 - Aeschylus’ Career

    06:22 - The Persians in performance

    1. 06:30 - The Dionysia of 472 BCE and Aeschylus’ tetralogy
    2. 08:35 - Pericles as producer (choregos)
    3. 09:09 - A synopsis of the play
    4. 11:12 - The structure of Greek Tragedies (or, how do we know that the Persians only needs two actors apart from the chorus?)

    14:03 - Interpreting the play: sympathy for the Persians?

    1. 15:06 - The survival of the play: evidence of its popularity?
    2. 16:04 - Triumphalism vs. a recognition of common experience
    3. 17:06 - Differences between Greek and Persians in the play: archers vs. spearmen, autocracy vs. autonomy, proskynesis and lamentation
    4. 20:36 - Aeschylus argues for common experiences: the Persians as Homeric heroes, the horrors and the costs of battle, and Aeschylus’ rejection of the “effeminate Persians” trope

    26:37 - The play’s main theme: empire and hubris

    1. 27:00 - Xerxes and his bad decisions
    2. 27:56 - The gods’ desire to punish Xerxes
    3. 28:53 - The hubris of Xerxes, or the hubris of the Empire? (Featuring Emily’s rant about hubris in ancient and modern thought)
    4. 34:27 - Aeschylus, the gods, and Athenian imperialism
    5. 36:55 - The social function of tragedy: thinking through big problems
    6. 37:28 - What staging the Persians can tell us about the play

    39:12 - Wrap-up

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    40 min
  • At Play in the Theater of Dionysus
    Jan 5 2026

    At Play in the Theater of Dionysus

    The Theater of Dionysus as Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides knew it was very different than the theater whose remains you see today in Athens. Listen to Emily and Cam walk you through the development of the space, and through the creation of the genre associated most strongly with it: Greek tragedy.

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    00:10 - Introduction

    01:37 - Visiting the Theater and Sanctuary

    1. 01:42 - Where to find the Theater and Sanctuary
    2. 02:16 - Don’t confuse it with the Odeion of Herodes Atticus!
    3. 03:26 - An overview of the physical remains

    04:01 - The Origins of the Sanctuary, the Theater, and the Festival

    1. 04:02 - The Sanctuary, the Festival, and the Temples of Dionysus
    2. 04:58 - The Theater through Time: The Fifth Century, the Lycurgan Theater, the Hellenistic Theater, and the Roman Theater
    3. 07:59 - The Festivals of Dionysus: The Origins of the City Dionysia and celebrations for Dionysus in Ikaria and other demes

    11:44 - The Origins of Scripted Drama in Athens

    1. 11:50 - The Dithyramb
    2. 12:41 - The legend of Thespis, the first actor
    3. 13:15 - The importance of the chorus in Greek drama
    4. 14:10 - Masking and actors playing multiple characters
    5. 14:30 - The Development of the Three-Actor Model in the Age of Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides

    19:09 - The City Dionysia

    1. 19:42 - The Schedule: The Procession and its Ithyphallic Floats; the Dithyrambic Competitions; the Dramatic Competitions
    2. 22:50 - Dionysus, the most important spectator
    3. 23:48 - The Organization of the Dramatic Competitions: Tragedies, Satyr Plays, Choruses, and Choregoi!

    30:09 - The Performance Space and its Evolution

    1. 30:20 - The Fifth-Century Theater: the Orchestra, the Skēnē, and the Paradoi
    2. 33:30 - Technical Innovations: the ekkyklēma and the mechanē
    3. 36:36 - The Deus Ex Machina in ancient Drama
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    45 min
  • Emily and Cam’s Excellent Adventure (in Athens and Rome, of course!)
    Dec 20 2025

    Emily and Cam talk about their recent trip to Athens and Rome in an episode that features some talk about marathons, tsipouro, and cats.

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    Links to some of the places we mention in this episode:

    • Athena’s Cook
    • Paradosiako Serron
    • Noctua Brewing
    • Esthio
    • Βαυβώ (Vafvo)
    • Hotel Santa Maria
    • San Clemente Archaeological Zone
    • Museum of the Forma Urbis


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    00:10 - Introduction

    01:25 - Our second walk through the Athens Marathon

    • 01:38 - Faliro: tourist sites, getting there, and the Marathon Expo
    • 05:06 - Carb loading before the Marathon
    • 06:32 - The trip to Marathon and the wait in the Stadium
    • 09:27 - The race itself (drinking tsipouro in the footsteps of Spiridon Louis!)


    15:19 - Our stay in Athens

    • 15:41 - How we travel
    • 17:11 - Old neighborhoods (Plaka and Monastiraki) and ancient sites (the Acropolis and the Theatre of Dionysus)
    • 19:01 - A field trip to Ilion (the Athens suburb, not Troy!) to eat at Paradosiako Serron
    • 21:06 - Modern Athens: Pangrati
    • 23:23 - Modern Athens: Koukaki and its restaurants (including Esthio) and our view of the Acropolis
    • 29:36 - Modern Athens: Neos Kosmos and Βαυβώ


    33:41 - Our Stay in Rome

    • 33:53 - Rome’s “feel” compared to Athens: geography and tourism
    • 35:39 - Trastevere and the Hotel Santa Maria
    • 37:12 - Culture shock: coffee and language issues
    • 40:01 - The Archaeological Zone at San Clemente
    • 43:45 - Castel Sant’Angelo
    • 44:42 - The Museum of the Forma Urbis
    • 46:34 - Wandering the city (and the Temple of Vibia Sabina and Hadrian)
    • 49:30 - Hangin’ on the Janiculum


    50:26 - Wrap-up

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    52 min
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