Today we're talking with Kiernan McMullan and Stevie Rae Stephens, founders of the Pindrop Songwriter Series! They have some great stories and insights about writing, performing, touring, Ireland (and being on American Idol.) There's some excellent advice in this episode, particularly for those musicians who are new to - or planning to come to Nashville.

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Stevie Rae Stephens

Kiernan McMullan

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Putting Out Fires by Defern (Parkway South)

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In this episode we talk with Juanita Copeland, manager and partner at Nashville's historic Sound Emporium. She's got some amazing insights about the business, including stories about working with Robert Plant, Bob Dylan, Cyndi Lauper, Jelly Roll, T Bone Burnett (and being serenaded by Joan Baez while doing yoga). We talk about advice for engineers starting out and advice for women in the music business.

Music from the show:

Putting Out Fires by Defern (Parkway South)

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BetweenTwoDeferns.com

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DefernMusic.com

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In this episode we talk with Manuel and Julie Delgado, the beating heart of Delgado Guitars and the Music Makers Stage (and La Tradición Music and Music City Mariachi!) They've worked with so many artists, ranging from Jose Feliciano to Los Lobos and Old Crow Medicine Show. We talk about moving from LA to Nashville, starting a business, making guitars, making relationships, and what it was like having dinner with Jackson Browne.

Music from the show:

Putting Out Fires by Defern (Parkway South)

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BetweenTwoDeferns.com

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DefernMusic.com

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Today we're talking with the amazing Mike Fiorentino. Mike is a long time songwriter and producer, having worked with Billy Gibbons of ZZ Top and Kyle Cook of Matchbox 20 - and is the director of A&R and Production at Spirit Music Nashville. Mike gives us a glimpse into the day in the life of a professional co-writing session, how publishing works, and many other things. And he's just a great guy!

Music from the show:
Putting Out Fires by Defern (Parkway South)
https://open.spotify.com/track/0T3bLY8349EZhWH8AqQbL8?si=5275b790fdab445c

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BetweenTwoDeferns.com

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DefernMusic.com

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Today we're talking with CJ Boggs, an amazing audio engineer who has worked with some of the biggest names in the business (and we were lucky enough to get him to work on a few of our songs!) He has done so many different things over the years, from touring as a keyboard player to touring internationally as an engineer. We cover lots of ground - especially interesting to us was hearing what it was like to tour regionally out of Nashville (from the experience of his daughter Nicole Boggs). 

Music from the show:
Putting Out Fires by Defern (Parkway South)
https://open.spotify.com/track/0T3bLY8349EZhWH8AqQbL8?si=5275b790fdab445c

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BetweenTwoDeferns.com

Find our music at
DefernMusic.com

Check out our video work
ZenMantis.com

We first met Donnie when he was hosting the famous Douglas Corner Cafe open mic in Nashville - and he's one of the reasons we decided to move here. Donnie had his first cut when he was only a freshman in high school! He comes from a long line of musicians and he's been on the grand old opry stage with Marty Robbins, and has opened for Charlie Daniels, Marshall Tucker, Lynyrd Skynyrd, and the Allman's with the Winters Brothers Band! We talk about what it means to be a professional and why relationships are so important. 

Music from the show:
Putting Out Fires by Defern (Parkway South)
https://open.spotify.com/track/0T3bLY8349EZhWH8AqQbL8?si=5275b790fdab445c

More about the podcast at
BetweenTwoDeferns.com

Find our music at
DefernMusic.com

Check out our video work
ZenMantis.com