In this episode of WILTBY Josh interviews Louis.

— (4:50) Josh processing his 2-wing and meeting Louis at the zone / the team love vs team truth confrontation — (11:45) 3w2 facilitating and orchestrating connection vs 3w4 distant excellence — (16:35) The philosophy of truth vs love in psychotherapy — (20:49) Carl Rogers unconditional positive regard — (29:30) What Josh finds annoying about 4 skepticism of love and connection — (33:39) Louis’ identification with predator swag — (42:24) 3w2 vs 3w4 in a team scenario / team vs self orientation — (48:31) How Josh realized he had a 2-wing / Louis’ social mode of separateness and why he became a therapist — (57:41) Differences in processing negativity and aesthetic frustration — (1:09:51) The 3w2 tenet of always having something to appreciate about anything — (1:24:08) The ideal ego fantasy for 3w2 vs 3w4

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