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Achieve your dream in 15 minutes! Join Bay Area based Creative Producer and Storyteller mikO Tolliver as she shares how she uses small spurts to achieve goals. From starting as a singer-songerwriter and expanding to filmmaking to landing a $200,000 grant, she shares her tricks and sits down with other creatives to talk about the artist hustle.

Life and the way it is, unfiltered and un-apologetic. Let Mike and Joe Tolliver shed some reality into your day to day BS, and maybe improve your outlook on life's many shortcomings or even sweeten those high points. Whatever the case, tune in and see what kinda shit we're getting into today!Follow us @thehardconversation on InstaGram for updates, sneak-peaks and insights.Email us at thehardconversationpodcast@gmail.com to ask us any questions you may want answered during one of our episodes. please add a brief description of the question and whether or not you would like your name disclosed.