In this powerful and refreshingly honest conversation, Chad sits down with Cat Greenleaf of the Soberness podcast for a deep dive into spirituality, addiction, recovery, and what it really means to come home to yourself.

Cat traces her journey from a spiritually attuned child to a successful public figure quietly struggling with alcoholism—and ultimately to a woman living openly and intentionally in recovery. Together, Chad and Cat explore the messy middle: the isolation of addiction, the courage it takes to ask for help, and the life-changing importance of community and connection.

The conversation unpacks the role of the 12-step program and Alcoholics Anonymous, while also embracing the truth that recovery is not one-size-fits-all.

Cat speaks candidly about the idea of “whatever works”—honoring multiple pathways to sobriety and meeting people exactly where they are.

They also touch on cultural moments like Dry January, the growing openness around sobriety, and why talking honestly about addiction matters now more than ever.

This episode is about surrender and strength, humility and humor, and the radical power of sharing your story out loud.

And fittingly, this conversation marks the very first episode of Not All There on the Lymbic Podcast Network—a new home for real stories, lived experience, and meaningful conversations at the intersection of addiction, recovery, mental health, and purpose.

Pull up a chair. You’re not alone.Takeaways

• Cat's childhood was marked by spiritual awareness andisolation.

• Alcohol became a coping mechanism for Cat at a young age.

• The 12-step program is a valuable tool for recovery.

• Community support is crucial in the journey of sobriety.

• Sobriety can take many forms, and what works varies byindividual.

• Sharing stories of addiction can help others feel lessalone.

• Alcoholism is a disease that requires personal choice toovercome.

• Dry January can be a positive step for those looking toreduce alcohol consumption.

• Open dialogue about sobriety is essential for breakingstigma.

Cat's Podcast Soberness:

https://soberness.com/

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https://www.lymbic.org/

In this episode of Not All There, Paul King shares powerful insights into addiction recovery, family support in addiction, and the emotional realities of loving someone in active substance use disorder. Through an honest conversation about mental health and addiction, we explore the importance of self-care for families, setting healthy boundaries, and improving communication when a loved one is struggling. The episode also addresses anticipatory grief, the impact of co-occurring mental illness, and why education and understanding addiction are essential for long-term recovery and healing. This conversation offers hope, clarity, and practical guidance for families navigating addiction, recovery, and mental wellness.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Addiction Recovery Support

02:40 The Journey of a Parent in Recovery

05:16 Understanding Grief in Addiction

08:03 Navigating Family Dynamics and Communication

10:44 The Impact of Mental Health on Substance Use

13:49 Self-Care and Support Strategies for Families

16:21 Conclusion and Resources for Families in Need

More About Paul King:

Paul King hosts Family Support in Addiction Recovery, a podcast offering practical tools and compassionate support for parents of loved ones struggling with addiction. Listen at:
https://family-support-in-addic.captivate.fm/listen

In this episode of Not All There, I sit down with South Africanspeaker, author, and recovery powerhouse Nikki Munitz — and she does not hold back.

Nikki takes us through her journey with raw honesty and a kind of clarity that only comes from doing deep inner work. She shares what growing up felt like before she found alcohol… and how that first drink opened the door toyears of addiction, including a devastating heroin dependence.

Nikki speaks candidly about the choices that spiraled into embezzlement, the time she served in prison, and what it took to face herself — not just the consequences. But this isn’t a story about damage — it’s a story about rebuilding.

Today, Nikki is a published author, a sought-after speaker, a coach, and yes — a passionate horse lover. Her work centers on self-esteem: how we build it, how we destroy it, and how our internal narrative shapes our identity, our mental health, our relationships, and our ability to recover.

This conversation is layered, moving, and filled with moments where you may see yourself — not in the addiction or the crime, necessarily, but in the self-talk, the longing, the survival strategies, the quiet pain, and the possibility of change.

Nikki is courageous, insightful, and deeply real — and I’m grateful she chose to share her story with us.

If you’ve ever questioned your worth, struggled with identity, or wondered whether change is still possible — this episode is for you.

Nikki’s website:

https://nikkimunitz.com/

Nikki’s LinkedIn:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikki-munitz-23586357/