In this raw and deeply moving conversation, Jeff & Jourdan Johnson share their unconventional love story, Jeff’s journey with same sex attraction, and the pain of navigating these realities within the church.

Together, they open up about grief, identity, marriage, and the ways the church has often failed to create space for honest conversations around sexuality and suffering.

If you’ve ever wrestled with shame, belonging, or holding pain and hope at the same time, this episode is for you.
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0:00 - Coming Up
1:04 - Today’s Guest, The Johnsons: Pastoring at Passion
6:51 - Ad: Amazing Kids - joinamazing.com
7:48 - Same-Sex Attraction: Identity and Sanctification
14:28 - Relationship Dynamics: Tensions and Truth
25:43 - From a Woman’s Perspective
29:33 - No Secrets, Choices to Make
35:50 - Open Spaces Podcast
41:15 - Discipline in the Struggle
46:57 - The Silent and Fearful Church
1:01:15 - Processing Grief and Loss with Honesty
1:25:26 - Songwriting
1:31:26 - Family and Travel

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In this honest conversation, Natalie Grant & Bernie Herms open up about insecurity, ambition, and the hidden struggles behind worship ministry.

From chasing success to surrendering identity, this episode challenges what we think calling really looks like.

If you’ve ever wrestled with platform, purpose, or comparison, this one is for you.
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0:00 - Coming up
1:11 - Today’s Guests, Natalie Grant & Bernie Herms: Marriage and Ministry
8:44 - Bernie’s Music Journey
14:06 - The Fruit of Relationships
19:44 - Finding a Balance
24:20 - Ad: Amazing Kids - joinamazing.com
25:16 - Overcoming Insecurity and Ego
31:28 - Transformation: Performance vs. Presence
44:58 - Advice For The Next Generation
54:16 - Relevance and Longevity
1:10:27 - What Natalie and Bernie Burn For
1:17:36 - Final Thoughts

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A raw and powerful conversation with Joanne Moody as she shares her 14-year battle with chronic pain, a near-death encounter with Jesus, and the miracle that changed everything.

This episode dives deep into healing, suffering, identity, and the authority believers carry.

If you’ve ever questioned God in pain, this is for you.

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