America once led the world in building transit and now leads the world in what transit costs, roughly three times the international average per mile, measured not against authoritarian megaprojects but against Italy, Spain, and Japan. On this episode of Volts, David Roberts talks with Will Poff-Webster of the Institute for Progress, who put together the new Transit Abundance Playbook, and Stephanie Pollack, former head of the Massachusetts Department of Transportation and former acting administrator of the Federal Highway Administration. Their argument is that the costs are a policy choice: federal funding rules teach transit agencies to plan on a napkin and do the real work years later, to hire the lowest bidder over the one they know will deliver, and to defer to anyone holding a veto, while highways operate under looser versions of the same rules. As Pollack puts it, "if you hate transit, you should spend less on it." A surface transportation reauthorization bill is coming, and two of the playbook's proposals have already reached the House version.

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction: why cars work against cities

03:25 Agency culture or federal law: where does the fix come from

11:31 Planning: how federal funding enforces bad habits

20:10 Overdesign: the Green Line stations and the frequency-first test

23:40 Buses: why every agency orders a custom fleet

26:53 Procurement: lowest bid versus best value

32:56 Veto points and Italy’s conference of services

39:56 Permitting: environmental review as a NIMBY tool

45:28 State capacity: why consultant brain took over

51:46 Labor costs, automation, and Section 13(c)

56:19 Is any of this politically achievable?

1:03:28 Final question: one reform each

Data center opposition has gone from nonexistent to organized in about two years, roughly 120 moratoriums across 38 states, and it does not track proximity: Gallup finds 70% of Americans oppose a data center near them, while only 8% of opponents live near one. On this episode of Volts, David Roberts joins Energy Empire hosts Jigar Shah and Jamie Nolan, along with Arnab Pal of Deploy Action, for a crossover conversation, and his argument is that everyone is solving the wrong problem. The hyperscalers could buy their way to consent for a rounding error, batteries in basements, solar on roofs, funded schools, lower bills, and they refuse, which David reads as a symptom of low social trust that no amount of better modeling touches. “This is not a technocratic problem that you can just solve with a few switches,” he says. Thirty-six governors go to the ballot this fall having to answer for it.

Chapters:

00:00 Intro: a Volts and Energy Empire crossover

01:25 Has the AI case been made? Energy vs. AI as the real revolution

04:23 The backlash by the numbers, and hyperscalers' botched PR

08:20 Animal spirits, low social trust, and the information environment

12:46 Enshittification, lost jobs, and why governors still want data centers

15:50 The local playbook: schools, bioswales, batteries in basements

17:18 Bespoke industrial rates without setting a bad precedent

22:33 How utilities earn: spend-to-earn, the distribution black box, efficiency

30:11 Gendering the grid: gas as firm, renewables as soft

37:57 NERC's level-three alert and the case for more batteries

39:29 Both/and: distributed capacity as serious supply

45:33 Abundance's missing half: state capacity, staffing, NEPA

48:55 The midterms: 36 governors and the politics of affordability

53:33 Hope vs. fear: the Mamdani lesson and the information environment

Most of the energy decisions that touch daily life in America get made in state legislatures, and the people making them are increasingly new to the job. In smaller states, a freshly elected lawmaker gets a pad of paper, no staff, and about 150 lobbyists at the door, then votes on billion-dollar energy budgets in a landscape where the technology changes faster than anyone can track. On this episode of Volts, David Roberts talks with Hawaii state Senator Chris Lee, co-founder of the Electric Innovation Initiative, a bipartisan network betting that education moves electrification faster than mandates: put lawmakers in front of working technology, connect them across state lines, and let affordability carry the argument where climate framing will not. As Lee puts it, "nine times out of ten, people just don't know what they don't know."

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction

03:39 How electrification clicked: the 2008 iPhone moment

06:10 The education gap: why the initiative exists

11:35 Proxy staff and cross-state validation

15:44 What lands on the tours: eVTOL to the data-center win-win

20:51 Plain 'electrification': the bipartisan framing bet

26:28 Climate hushing and Hawaii's two-track proof

30:17 Policy that spreads: e-buses, heat pumps, RFPs

37:37 Utility business-model reform: Hawaii's PBR law

42:03 Affordability after the federal subsidies

45:22 Hawaii under pressure: LNG and the Lahaina grid

51:53 State power against federal hostility

55:19 The ten-year vision and the closing advice

Property taxes are two taxes stapled together: one on the land, one on whatever gets built on it. Put up an apartment building and the bill goes up. Pave the lot for parking and it stays low. It discourages building and rewards land speculation. The answer? Tax the buildings less and the land more. The idea of a “land value tax” goes back 150 years, but implementing it today involves navigating tricky constitutional issues. In this episode, I talk with Greg Miller of the Center for Land economics about the rationale for such taxes, and with Kitty Klitzke, a Spokane, Washington council member, about the difficulties of putting it in practice in a real city.

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction

03:22 Henry George and the case for taxing land

08:12 How property taxes work now, and what a split rate changes

11:26 Land value taxes and upzoning as complements

15:18 The Pennsylvania record and the reassessment problem

18:51 Vancouver, and why homeowners outlast the policy

24:03 Estonia, Singapore, and the Scottish Islands

26:53 Washington's uniformity clause and the building exemption

33:18 Kitty Klitzke on twenty years of Spokane infill

43:27 What Spokane needs from the state legislature

45:25 Single family homeowners and the Division corridor

48:34 The assessor objection

52:45 What the Spokane modeling shows

59:31 The plan for next session

1:01:44 Virginia, Kentucky, and cross-partisan momentum

Minnesota regulators Sydnie Lieb and Pete Wyckoff on why utility distribution spending — now a third of capital budgets and the biggest driver of rising bills — escapes the scrutiny the rest of the grid faces, and how to fix that.

00:00 - Introduction

04:23 - How distribution is regulated differently than generation and transmission

09:25 - Why distribution matters now: an aging system and the build-more incentive

14:00 - Contestable “mandatory” spending: undergrounding, DERMS software, capitalization

22:19 - Reliability standards and the cost of chasing 100 percent

28:42 - The MISO comparison: valuing a lost hour, and the scale of the numbers

35:12 - Non-wires alternatives: batteries, the Xcel project, and modeling gaps

40:31 - What regulators should require: AMI forecasts and beyond the prudence test

47:22 - The speed objection: does more analysis slow things down?

50:10 - Why spending caps and rate freezes are the wrong fix

52:40 - Spending more anyway, and recent Minnesota PUC disappointments

55:09 - Restructured markets: does the same logic apply?

58:38 - The vision of a well-functioning process and scaling it nationally

Following a stunning clean energy victory over right-wing donors on an obscure Arizona utility board, organizers are setting their sights on a much bigger prize: the state’s powerful utility commission. I chat with Charlie Fisher and Ning Mosberger-Tang about how they used disciplined messaging to overcome massive opposition spending and historically abysmal voter turnout. We discuss whether this localized ground game can scale to a massive statewide electorate and help build a durable, nationwide clean energy political machine.

You might have noticed that it’s kind of hot out there. And it’s only going to get worse: global demand for cooling is projected to triple by 2050. Finding a way to cool spaces and people without frying the planet is a crucial climate challenge. I’m joined by RMI’s Ankit Kalanki to unpack the hidden world of AC refrigerants and testing standards, the crucial distinction between lowering temperatures and dehumidifying, new AC technologies on the horizon, and the building and urban design changes that can take some of the pressure off.

In this episode, I talk with GM Energy executive Aseem Kapur about General Motors’ move into bidirectional EV charging and home energy management. We dig into the practicalities of turning hundreds of thousands of EVs into mobile backup generators, how to navigate a patchwork of 4,000 different utilities, and what it takes to get everyday consumers to see their cars as grid assets.