Former UAP Task Force director Jay Stratton says that at 4 a.m. on March 12, 2014, something stood outside his window, looking at his sleeping son. In his new memoir, Out of the Shadows, the investigator becomes the witness. We take his account seriously and ask what supports each part of it.

Bill Van Nort follows Stratton from the Office of Naval Intelligence and the UAP Task Force to a shimmering figure at Skinwalker Ranch, the "hitchhiker effect" his family describes at home, Travis Taylor's monitoring device, and his claims about a concealed program, Hal Puthoff, Eric Davis and Jim Ryder.

This is the audio edition of our cinematic film. Watch the full 4K visual edition: https://youtu.be/_zEWAJxle10

CHAPTERS
00:00 Cold open: 4 a.m., March 12, 2014
00:59 Introduction
01:51 Who Jay Stratton is
02:21 The UAP Task Force and the intelligence problem
03:04 Between an encounter and an answer
03:33 Gimbal and the feedback problem
04:02 How sincere witnesses remember
04:48 Support the show
05:17 Skinwalker Ranch: a shimmering figure
06:09 Unusual events at home
07:03 A family carrying the experience
08:02 Measurements and Travis Taylor
09:06 The concealed-program claims and the source chain
10:15 What publication clearance does and does not mean
10:52 Return to the window
11:43 Questions a good investigation asks
12:40 A hopeful final movement
13:44 The book: Out of the Shadows
14:08 Closing
14:45 Credits

SOURCES & CREDITS
Jay Stratton, Out of the Shadows: Revealing the Truth About Non-Human Intelligent Life (William Morrow/HarperCollins, 2026).
Radiance Technologies announcement, May 12, 2022.
GIMBAL and GOFAST: U.S. Navy / NAVAIR via DVIDS — https://www.dvidshub.net/video/956955/gimbal-uap and https://www.dvidshub.net/video/956683/gofast-uap
ODNI, Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (June 25, 2021).
Hal Puthoff: The Sol Foundation (2024). Eric W. Davis: UAP Disclosure Fund (2025). Jay Stratton interview: Fox News.

PRODUCTION
An EpicB Media LLC production. Creative direction and narration: Bill Van Nort (voice produced with ElevenLabs). AI-generated visuals in the film are illustrative reconstructions, not archival footage or evidence.

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How was the Great Pyramid built? Join Unknown Origin for a journey through ancient Egyptian quarrying, Nile transport, sledges, ramps, surveying and the human coordination behind the monument.

This is the audio edition of our cinematic film. Watch the full 4K visual edition, including historical images and engineering graphics: https://youtu.be/JkCeLRSS8f4

Ancient Worlds joins our continuing exploration of UAP, unusual encounters and the cosmos.

CHAPTERS
00:00 Your next project: the Great Pyramid
01:08 Start with the stone
02:24 A building site becomes an industry
03:34 Follow the water
04:51 Move the stone
06:04 The problem of height
08:06 The geometry changes the work
09:15 Inside the pyramid
09:53 Lines, levels and orientation
11:18 The people behind the monument
12:42 One connected system

Sources and visual credits for the companion film:
SELECTED RESEARCH
Pierre Tallet, Le journal de Merer, Les papyrus de la mer Rouge I, MIFAO 136 (2017).
Fall et al., Sliding Friction on Wet and Dry Sand, Physical Review Letters 112, 175502 (2014).
Sheisha et al., Nile waterscapes facilitated the construction of the Giza pyramids during the 3rd millennium BCE, PNAS 119, e2202530119 (2022).
AERA / Giza Plateau Mapping Project; AERAGRAM 16.2 (2015).
Harvard Digital Giza; National Museums Scotland; Egyptian Ministry of Tourism and Antiquities; Amy Calvert / Smarthistory, Pyramid of Khufu.

HISTORICAL IMAGES
Merer's logbook photographs: Courtesy of www.meretsegerbooks.com, under publication permission. Original watermarks retained; resized for presentation.
https://www.meretsegerbooks.com/pictures-of-egypt.php
Grand Gallery: Mike McBey. King's Chamber: Andrew Currie, cleanup by JMCC1. Both CC BY 2.0, via Wikimedia Commons; resized to fit, with crops and pans.
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Looking_upwards,_along_the_Grand_Gallery,_inside_the_Great_Pyramid_1984_(50535456558).jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Khufu_Pyramid_-_King%27s_Chamber.jpg
Djehutihotep transport scene: Howard Carter / P. E. Newberry, El Bersheh I, plate XV (1895), public domain. A 19th-century facsimile of a 12th Dynasty painting; resized with an attention annotation.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Transportation_of_statue_of_Djehutihotep_II.jpg
Unas pyramid complex, Saqqara: Sebi; panorama/crop by GDK, public domain; resized.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Panorama_of_the_pyramid_of_Unas_and_temple.jpg
The Metropolitan Museum of Art, Open Access / CC0:
Khufu's cattle relief, 22.1.3a, b; temple relief, 22.1.25. Rogers Fund and Edward S. Harkness Gift, 1922.
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/543890
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/551275
Great Pyramid mortar, 23.187. Anonymous Gift, 1924.
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/569692
https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/

PRODUCTION
An EpicB Media LLC production. Creative direction: Bill Van Nort. AI-assisted visual reconstructions and narration; ramp designs and planning figures are illustrative. Narration: Frederick Surrey / ElevenLabs. Music: Beyond the Last Star, UOL001-003, from the existing Unknown Origin Suno library. Full credits appear in the film.

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https://www.patreon.com/UnknownOriginPodcast
https://unknownorigin.transistor.fm/
Questions and corrections: unknownorigin@epicbmedia.com

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What happens after a reported UFO encounter—when the questions stop, the reporters leave, and you still have a life to live?

In this cinematic episode of Unknown Origin, Bill follows Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker beyond the 1973 Pascagoula account, then turns to Betty and Barney Hill. Work, relationships, public attention, memory, and the decision to speak become part of a story that lasts much longer than one extraordinary night.

These are reported encounters, explored through early records and later recollections. The film distinguishes testimony, interpretation, and what can be established independently.

Subscribe for immersive stories about UFOs, UAP, and the bigger questions they leave us with. What would be hardest to return to after an experience you couldn't explain?

WATCH & LISTEN
Full film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go-tb8zuvZ8
Podcast: https://unknownorigin.transistor.fm/
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Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/UnknownOriginPodcast

CHAPTERS
00:00 Opening
00:18 The room after the questions
03:22 An ordinary evening
05:54 What the men reported
09:14 The decision to tell someone
12:15 The questions and the recording
15:23 The next working day
18:32 A story enters public life
21:19 The months afterward
24:13 Charles Hickson keeps speaking
27:24 Musical break
28:09 Calvin and Waynett
31:35 Choosing to tell the story
34:45 Betty and Barney Hill
38:00 The account changes over time
40:49 Lives beyond the encounter
43:02 A return to Pascagoula
45:52 What he wanted remembered
49:05 Credits and theme

SOURCES TO EXPLORE
Sheriff-interview excerpts reproduced by NICAP:
https://www.nicap.org/reports/731011pascagoula_hicksontape.htm
University of Southern Mississippi: Hickson oral history:
https://www.lib.usm.edu/spcol/exhibitions/item_of_the_month/iotm_june_2022.html
Calvin Parker's 2018 account, WLOX:
https://www.wlox.com/story/38768369/ms-man-writes-book-about-his-1970s-alien-abduction/
Parker's later life, Country Roads:
https://countryroadsmagazine.com/art-and-culture/people-places/the-pascagoula-abduction/
Walter Webb's October 1961 Hill report:
https://www.nicap.org/reports/610919hill_report1.pdf
University of New Hampshire: the Hill collection:
https://magazine.unh.edu/issue/spring-summer-2021/an-extraterrestrial-special-collection/
Hypnosis and memory: Orne et al. (1996):
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8885533/

PRODUCTION & IMAGE CONTEXT
Created and narrated by Bill Van Nort. An EpicB Media production.
Narration uses Bill's authorized synthetic voice. AI-assisted dramatized scenes and a consistent synthetic cast illustrate the accounts; they are not historical footage or evidence of the reported encounters. Scientific visualizations and observatory footage provide illustrative context. No endorsement by source organizations is implied. Full references and media credits appear in the film's end credits.

Selected picture credits: ESO/C. Malin (christophmalin.com); G. Hüdepohl (atacamaphoto.com)/ESO; NASA/ESA/M. Kornmesser (CC BY 4.0: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/). Footage edited, reframed, retimed; source audio excluded. ESO sources: https://www.eso.org/public/videos/uhd-cm-alma-pan2/ and https://www.eso.org/public/videos/lasilla-drone-2019/ and https://www.eso.org/public/videos/earth_2015_4k/
NASA Johnson Space Center Earth footage; NASA Goddard Space Flight Center/Conceptual Image Lab. Cosmic Cliffs: NASA Universe of Learning/STScI. Galaxy traverse: F. Summers/G. Bacon (STScI); simulation C. Hummels/P. Hopkins (Caltech), A. Wetzel (UC Davis). Orion: NASA, ESA, STScI, Caltech/IPAC; acknowledgments A. Fujii/R. Gendler. Full contributor lists in the end credits.

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• (00:00) - Opening
• (00:18) - The room after the questions
• (03:22) - An ordinary evening
• (05:54) - What the men reported
• (09:14) - The decision to tell someone
• (12:15) - The questions and the recording
• (15:23) - The next working day
• (18:32) - A story enters public life
• (21:19) - The months afterward
• (24:13) - Charles Hickson keeps speaking
• (27:24) - Musical break
• (28:09) - Calvin and Waynett
• (31:35) - Choosing to tell the story
• (34:45) - Betty and Barney Hill
• (38:00) - The account changes over time
• (40:49) - Lives beyond the encounter
• (43:02) - A return to Pascagoula
• (45:52) - What he wanted remembered
• (49:05) - Credits and theme