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"This episode includes discussion of a suicide attempt and suicide loss. If you're struggling, call or text 988 (US) any time to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline."
Al Reano has spent 34 years in commercial lending, and he's turned down more loans than he's approved. He never tells anyone “Never", he tells them, "not now."
It took him a long time to say that to himself.
The episode starts light. Al met James Gass on a pickup basketball court, ended up as his unofficial roadie, and tells about the time James stood outside his garage in the heat just to hear his band practice. Al fell in love with the Showtime Lakers at age nine. Years later he turned down $500 for a pair of tickets so his grandfather could see Magic Johnson's comeback game in person. He still has the photos. He's a Mookie Betts guy, an Eric Karros guy, and he once met Tommy Lasorda. He also refuses to touch a Dodger Dog these days.
Then James asks about his darkest moment, and Al tells it straight.
He'd been married for 22 years and thought it was a strong marriage. He saw it falling apart slowly, did everything his therapist asked, prayed hard, and nothing worked. When the end came, he felt numb and saw no way out. A couple of years ago, he tried to take his own life. He calls it the most selfish thing he's ever done, because he didn't think about his kids for a second. He and James, who shared his own story, talk openly about what was really behind those moments.
What came after is why this episode matters. The same therapist he started seeing with his wife is the one he still sees today. Through that work, he learned he is someone worth loving. And he found what his therapist calls his "God's army": about 20 people who will never let him feel alone again. Three of his four kids are in therapy now too, because he made sure they had support outside of him.
Brian Penn also shares something he's carried for months: a quiet nudge to call a friend he never acted on, and the phone call two weeks later.
In this episode:
- Why "not now" is kinder than "never"
- The game Al chose to share with his grandfather instead of selling the tickets
- Walking into Dodger Stadium with his kids for the first time
- 22 years, a slow ending, and the moment he gave up
- Why Al says therapy is cool and everybody needs it
- Paying attention to the whisper that tells you to check on someone
- Smiling more and being kind, even to people who annoy you
"You are not alone. Reach out. Call someone. Let someone tell you that you matter in this life and that life would suck if you weren't here." — Al Reano