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April 20, 2026

Before we begin — a word of care. Today’s episode includes discussion of sexual assault, harm to children, and various forms of violence. Please listen in a way that honors your own wellbeing.

There’s a reason we build monuments — and a reason that word carries weight when it turns.

When Dolores Huerta speaks, the world listens. And when she confirmed what the New York Times spent five years investigating — that Cesar Chavez raped her and molested children — the world had to reckon with what to do next.

In Ep. 39, Antonio, Jon, and Lybroan don’t look away. They sit with the full weight of what it means when a hero falls — and what it reveals about who we hold accountable, how fast we move, and why some institutions survive scandals that would bury any one individual.

Chavez’s name came off buildings within 24 hours. Meanwhile, the Epstein files sit open. The Catholic Church writes checks. And certain politicians collect convictions like trading cards while their names go up on buildings instead of coming down.

The brothers work through the hardest version of the question: Can a bad person do good things? Where do you draw the line — and does it move when the artist is someone you love? When the community absorbing the shame is already carrying too much?

This one doesn’t tie up neatly. It’s not supposed to. And that’s the way it is.

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"It Does Matter If You're Black or White" Three for the Founders | Episode 38 | April 13, 2026 | 1 hr. 11 min.

The best episodes of Three for the Founders do what the best public radio rarely does anymore: they hold two enormous ideas in the same room without forcing a tidy resolution. Episode 38 is exactly that kind of hour.

Lybroan James returns from a Homecoming trip to Ghana — led by Courageous Conversation architect Glenn Singleton — carrying something that doesn't compress easily into a trip report. Standing at the Door of No Return, tracing the final steps of the transatlantic passage, and being formally welcomed into the Apariti tribe, he wrestles with what it means to be received as home in a place American propaganda insists doesn't want you. Meanwhile, Jon Augustine walks into a white affinity space at the SoCal POCIS conference for the first time — and what he finds there is less a conversation than a symptom: orderly, earnest, intellectualized, and curiously disconnected from the soul happening loudly across the hall.

The juxtaposition is the argument. Ghana's cultural economy — its communal rituals, its marketplace logic, its vision of African diaspora return as an economic and spiritual corrective — becomes a lens through which to interrogate why white affinity spaces so often struggle to produce the belonging they're designed to cultivate. The hosts don't belabor the thesis; they trust the resonance. Antonio's framing is sharp: community before content. Jon's hibachi analogy lands. And Lybroan's account of cocoa trade inequity and a UN resolution the United States voted against lingers longer than it should have to.

Three for the Founders continues to earn its place in the crowded podcast landscape not by shouting, but by thinking — out loud, together, and in real time.

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What do you get when three Sigmas start talking about Black nationalism and end up deep in a debate about dog training costs? A bonus episode of Three for the Founders, that's what. The guys open with a pointed question contrasting Black and White nationalism — and how Christian nationalism fits into that conversation — before Obi-Wan the 80-pound problem child hijacks the whole show. Antonio breaks down his investment in Cali K9 (yes, the one from Netflix), the philosophy behind real obedience training, and why $2,000 in training fees actually makes sense when you're planning a trip to Banff with a dog who doesn't listen. The co-hosts weigh in on small dogs, cats, and why some people just aren't pet people — plus a family story about a Great Dane named Leonard eating better than most of us. They squeeze in a strong recommendation for Something the Lord Made on HBO Max before Obi shuts the whole operation down. Short, candid, and completely unscripted — this is Three for the Founders between episodes.

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