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April 20, 2026

Before we begin — a word of care. Today’s episode includes discussion of sexual assault, harm to children, and various forms of violence. Please listen in a way that honors your own wellbeing.

There’s a reason we build monuments — and a reason that word carries weight when it turns.

When Dolores Huerta speaks, the world listens. And when she confirmed what the New York Times spent five years investigating — that Cesar Chavez raped her and molested children — the world had to reckon with what to do next.

In Ep. 39, Antonio, Jon, and Lybroan don’t look away. They sit with the full weight of what it means when a hero falls — and what it reveals about who we hold accountable, how fast we move, and why some institutions survive scandals that would bury any one individual.

Chavez’s name came off buildings within 24 hours. Meanwhile, the Epstein files sit open. The Catholic Church writes checks. And certain politicians collect convictions like trading cards while their names go up on buildings instead of coming down.

The brothers work through the hardest version of the question: Can a bad person do good things? Where do you draw the line — and does it move when the artist is someone you love? When the community absorbing the shame is already carrying too much?

This one doesn’t tie up neatly. It’s not supposed to. And that’s the way it is.

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