College football recruiting pioneer Bill Kurelic joins Tim May and Clay Hall for an in-depth conversation on how the recruiting world has transformed — and why today’s landscape feels like “daily chaos.”

Kurelic, one of the original trailblazers of recruiting coverage and a longtime authority on Ohio State football, reflects on turning a curiosity in the 1980s into a groundbreaking career that helped define an entire industry. Though he retired in November 2025, his perspective on the transfer portal, NIL, revenue sharing, and modern roster management is more relevant than ever.

From the old days of handwritten letters and personal relationships to today’s nonstop portal movement and NIL negotiations, this episode offers rare historical context and insight from someone who saw it all up close.

If you want to understand how college football recruiting got here — and where it’s headed next — this is a must-watch conversation.

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