The person who was supposed to catch you is the one who let you fall. That is betrayal, and it does not behave like ordinary heartbreak.
We sit down with Lauren Cheney, a mom of two who rebuilt her life after an almost 20-year marriage ended in betrayal. Yoshie also shares her own story on camera for the first time. We get into why this wound cuts so deep, why so many of us blame ourselves and try to fix the very person who hurt us, and what the brain and body are actually doing in the worst of it.
In this episode:
- Why betrayal from your closest person cuts deeper than any other loss
- The strange "gift" in Lauren's timeline that showed her it was never her fault
- Why the brain treats the person who hurt you like an addiction
- Guilt vs. shame, and why the shame spiral keeps us silent
- Broken heart syndrome, and the study on Tylenol and social pain
- The phases of betrayal trauma, and why you stabilize first
🎙️ GUEST:
Lauren Cheney is a mom of two who rebuilt her life after an almost 20-year marriage ended in betrayal. A Certified Emotion Code® and Body Code® Practitioner, she draws on holistic work and her own hard-won experience to explore both traditional and unconventional ways back to steady ground. When she shared her story online, her videos passed a million views. She is now launching her own podcast on rebuilding and moving forward after betrayal.
⏱️ CHAPTERS:
[00:00] What if everything ended?
[5:33] Lauren's story: blindsided after 20 years
[13:03] Yoshie's story, and the shared thread
[20:08] Why betrayal cuts deepest: the oxytocin bond
[23:40] An attachment injury, not just broken trust
[28:40] The brain on rejection, and the urge to fix
[34:51] Guilt, shame, and releasing it
[42:14] The phases: stabilize before you make sense of it
[51:52] Broken heart syndrome, and the Tylenol study
[57:10] The first spark of joy, and rewiring the brain
🛠️ RESOURCES:
- Book: The Betrayal Bind by Michelle Mays: https://amzn.to/4yDRfPO (Affiliate link shared by our guest. Purchases may earn her a commission at no extra cost to you.)
- Find a betrayal-trauma-trained therapist or coach. Search the APSATS or CCPS credentials: https://iitap.com/page/TherapistDirectory
- Helen Fisher's MRI research: a rejecting partner's photo lights up the same dopamine circuitry as addiction.
- Takotsubo cardiomyopathy ("broken heart syndrome"): an adrenaline surge that mimics a heart attack.
- DeWall and Eisenberger study: acetaminophen eased both hurt feelings and social-pain activity in the brain.
- Bach Rescue Remedy
🔗 CONNECT WITH LAUREN:
BetterAfterBetrayal: https://www.tiktok.com/@betterafterbetrayal
🔗 THE RAW ONION:
Web: https://www.therawonionpodcast.com
🔗 CONNECT WITH STEPHANIE:
Let's Talk: https://scheduler.zoom.us/stephanie-ohannesian/30-mins-discovery-zoom
🔗 CONNECT WITH YOSHIE:
Web: https://lotusflowerjourneys.com