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  • From PDC to Practice: Learning Permaculture by Doing It!

    From PDC to Practice: Learning Permaculture by Doing It!
    Oct 3 2026
    In episode 131 of The Permaculture Vine Podcast, host Cormac Harkin was joined by Lindsay Brandon of Permaculture Canada and Armagarden, and Harry Sealy, who is making the transition from environmental consultancy into permaculture.The conversation covered what a Permaculture Design Course (PDC) involves, Lindsay’s approach to delivering her own PDC, choosing between different courses, using a property as the basis for a PDC design, and what happens when a design begins to be implemented on the ground. The discussion also moved into ongoing education, current projects and the role of Indigenous and local knowledge.Who’s at the TableLindsay Brandon joined from her school bus in an off-grid community in Golden, British Columbia, Canada. She is with Permaculture Canada and Armagarden and is currently developing a Permaculture Design Certification course, while living seasonally on the property and planning further work in Canada and Central America.Harry Sealy is based on the southwest coast of Ireland, around 400–500 metres from the Atlantic. His career has largely been in environmental consultancy and environmental impact assessment, including work in Ireland, the UK and the Middle East. After completing an online PDC with Geoff Lawton, he is now working on four acres near the coast that he hopes to develop as a permaculture demonstration site.What a Permaculture Design Course CoversThe conversation began with what a PDC actually is and how Lindsay and Harry experienced their own courses.Lindsay described her PDC as a change in how she looked at land. The course brought together weather, geography, history, water movement, species, compaction and other observations of a site. She had already been involved in gardening, but found that the PDC extended beyond gardening into the relationships between different elements of a system.That included looking at how the people using a property interact with the land, what they need from it and how the different elements can be connected.Harry came to his PDC from a different background. He had already spent around 25 years working in environmental consultancy and initially expected much of the course material to be familiar. He said the patterning section in particular changed how he looked at the subject.He also discussed the accessibility of PDCs. In his experience, the course did not require a particular educational or professional background and introduced concepts from the beginning before building on them.The discussion also covered the range of subjects within permaculture. Lindsay noted that people can develop particular interests in areas such as soil, climate or topography rather than expecting to specialise in everything.Lindsay’s PDCLindsay has been developing her own courses over several years. Her current plan begins with a basic Permaculture Design Certification, followed by an advanced designers course for people who want to take the work further and learn how to design and present projects digitally.The first PDC is planned as an online course running once a week on Wednesday evenings from mid-November to mid-February. Lindsay described this first version as a pilot programme that will help develop later in-person courses in Golden, British Columbia, and Mexico.One aim is to have participants from different climates involved rather than focusing entirely on a single climatic region. The course will therefore include discussion of different implementation practices in cold and tropical climates.Students will develop a design throughout the course. Each week’s topic feeds into homework and the final project rather than leaving the complete design until the end.After the main course, Lindsay plans to include additional question-and-answer and design mentoring sessions. Students will then have time to finalise their designs before presenting their projects at the end of March.The planned in-person versions will contain the same underlying material but allow more practical work. Lindsay discussed possibilities including earthworks, earthen building, ponds, food forests and working with the animals and existing infrastructure available at the locations.Choosing a PDCWith many different PDCs now available, Harry asked how somebody new to permaculture could decide which course to take.Lindsay suggested researching both the organisation and the people delivering the course. She discussed looking at their existing work, videos and other material, as well as contacting them directly where possible.Communication was part of that consideration. She suggested seeing whether prospective students can speak with the people involved through email, a phone conversation, Zoom or another form of direct contact.Cormac compared this with his own experience completing Geoff Lawton’s online PDC as part of a much larger group. He liked having the course information released progressively, giving time to work through the volume of material, but said that if he ...
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    1 ora e 4 min
  • 130. Food Forest Design, AI Systems and Off-Grid Communities

    130. Food Forest Design, AI Systems and Off-Grid Communities
    Sep 26 2026
    In episode 130 of The Permaculture Vine Podcast, host Cormac Harkin was joined by Travis Holzem, returning to the podcast after previously appearing in episode 88.The conversation covered Travis’s work with Food Forest Design Minnesota, the development of the Food Forest Design Network, his use of AI and automation within a food forest design business, and plans for Sovereign Acres, a proposed off-grid community in Minnesota.Who’s at the TableTravis Holzem is based in Minnesota and described himself as a former founder of Food Forest Abundance. After leaving that company, he started Food Forest Design Minnesota and has been developing a market for food forest designs and installations in the state. He is also developing the Food Forest Design Network and working on plans for Sovereign Acres.Cormac Harkin hosts The Permaculture Vine Podcast. During the conversation, Cormac drew on his own experience designing properties, including the time involved in researching sites and plants, and discussed his own use of AI for tasks such as turning podcast transcripts into articles.Rebuilding After Losing Access to Social MediaTravis began by describing what had happened to his business over the previous year. He said he lost access for around three months to services connected to Facebook, including Facebook Marketplace, Instagram, WhatsApp and his Facebook pages.He estimated that this removed around 75% of his lead generation. It also affected existing projects because he had been using Facebook Marketplace to connect with vendors supplying trees and other materials for installations.When he eventually regained access, his advertising account was gone and he had also lost a Facebook group with around 25,000 members. Travis said the experience led him to make changes to his business and build systems that would be less dependent on the same platforms.He also described a more recent incident on TikTok, where a live video was stopped after automated moderation appeared to interpret him sitting in a stationary car as driving while livestreaming. In that case, Travis said he contacted TikTok through its feedback system and regained access to live video within a few days.Building the Food Forest Design NetworkThe conversation then moved to the Food Forest Design Network.Travis described it as a nationwide network intended to connect food forest designers and installers with customers while also providing training, technology and business infrastructure.Food Forest Design Minnesota is the owner of the network, and Travis described his existing Minnesota business as the model he is using to develop the wider system.Part of the network is aimed at people who want to start a food forest design and installation business but do not yet have the business infrastructure in place. Travis said the system includes training alongside a website, customer relationship management system and lead-generation tools.His aim is to provide members with much of the infrastructure required to operate the business rather than requiring each designer to build those systems independently.AI and Business AdministrationA substantial part of the discussion focused on Travis’s use of AI within his business.He explained that installing food forests can mean spending eight, nine or ten hours working on a property before returning home to emails, telephone calls, direct messages and other administrative work.To reduce that workload, he has developed AI systems to handle parts of the lead-follow-up process. He described systems that can respond through voice, text, email and social media messages and continue following up with potential clients over an extended period.Cormac distinguished this kind of administrative use from some other uses of AI that he does not particularly like. The discussion also covered AI agents more generally, with Cormac describing them as systems trained to perform particular functions and pass information between different stages of a workflow.One example discussed was podcast production, where one agent could transcribe an episode and another could use that transcript to produce an article.An AI-Assisted Food Forest Design ProcessTravis has also been developing an AI-assisted food forest design system.He said the system begins by gathering information from the client about the property and what they want from it. Questions can cover what they want to grow, existing structures, utilities and issues such as standing water.That information can then be combined with property data including soil type, wind patterns, snowfall, rainfall and elevation. Travis said the system can also gather topographical information and use photographs supplied by the client.A further stage uses the collected information to help assemble the design, including plant choices appropriate to the location and combinations of plants within guilds.Cormac compared this with his own design experience, saying that the fastest he had completed a ...
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    50 min
  • 129. From Oil to Soil and Interdependence

    129. From Oil to Soil and Interdependence
    Sep 18 2026
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    1 ora e 10 min
  • 128. Permaculture and Preparedness: Food, Water, Energy and Community

    128. Permaculture and Preparedness: Food, Water, Energy and Community
    Sep 14 2026
    Lindsay Brandon joins Cormac Harkin to discuss preparedness through permaculture design, including food and water storage, energy and heat, growing at different scales, off-grid systems, redundancy, skills and community interdependence.In episode 128 of The Permaculture Vine Podcast, host Cormac Harkin was joined by Lindsay Brandon from Permaculture Canada. Lindsay joined the conversation from her school bus just north of Golden, British Columbia, where she is setting up her off-grid systems.The conversation covered preparedness through the lens of permaculture design, moving beyond storing supplies to look at food, water, energy, heat, waste, skills, property design and community.Who’s at the TableLindsay Brandon is with Permaculture Canada and was speaking from her school bus just north of Golden, BC. She has recently moved from Calgary and is setting up her off-grid systems, including solar power, water, hot water, a humanure composting system and other infrastructure.Cormac Harkin hosts The Permaculture Vine Podcast. During the conversation, he discussed his own property and the systems he uses and is developing, including water, food growing, composting, chickens, a food forest and annual garden.Preparedness Beyond Food StorageThe conversation began with government messaging around keeping additional food and supplies and preparing for extreme weather and possible supply-chain disruption. Cormac contrasted simply stockpiling food with using permaculture to consider how different systems work together.Lindsay added community resilience and interdependence to the discussion. Food and water storage were part of preparedness, but she also raised the importance of knowing the skills available among neighbours and knowing who could provide help in areas such as medical care.Cormac also raised the practical question of whether stored foods are foods people normally eat and know how to prepare. The discussion therefore moved from simply having supplies towards considering how those supplies would actually be used.Starting at Different ScalesSpace was one of the first practical constraints discussed. Cormac described his own property as one tenth of an acre and also raised the situations of people living in flats or apartments.Lindsay described the contrast between living inside a school bus and being surrounded by a much larger property. Rather than creating an individual garden beside the bus, she is participating in community growing systems already operating on the property.The conversation also covered balcony herbs, community gardens and finding unused land. Lindsay mentioned grants she had encountered in Canada for people willing to organise community gardens. She also referred to her recent trip to Iceland, where the range of crops that can be grown outdoors is more restricted, and raised indoor growing and hydroponics while noting their dependence on power.Using Permaculture Design for PreparednessCormac framed permaculture design around food, energy, water and shelter rather than treating each one separately. Lindsay discussed the tools that might be available for extending food storage, including fermentation crocks, solar dryers and dehydrators.Those tools do not necessarily have to belong to one person. Lindsay described bringing people together for fermenting, with several people sharing the work of preparing kimchi, beet kraut and other preserved foods. Different people could bring different skills and equipment to the process.Cormac also discussed observing what is already available before beginning: skills, community, resources, money, food, water, electricity, heat, fuel and waste streams. Kitchen waste was used as an example of an output that could become an input for compost or chickens.Auditing Skills and ResourcesLindsay described an exercise she is currently doing as she moves from city life to living off-grid. She is writing down her skills, resources and tools, including experience with soap making, fermenting, acting, music and dance.She described this as a needs-and-yields analysis that she is applying to herself so that people in the community can understand what she is able to contribute.Observation is also happening directly on the land. On the rainy day when the episode was recorded, Lindsay and Brian planned to walk the property and observe where water was moving and pooling and where ponds might be located.Water Storage and SupplyWhen Cormac asked where someone should start, Lindsay initially identified water, followed by food and community.Cormac discussed calculating how much water a household requires, how much can be stored and whether more can be collected. In his own climate, rainwater can be collected throughout the year, although water intended for drinking would need to be treated.The conversation also covered storing water higher on a property where possible for gravity feeding, as well as considering both drought and flooding.For Lindsay, the current off-grid ...
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    59 min
  • 127. Digital Permaculture, Ethical IT and Open-Source Tools

    127. Digital Permaculture, Ethical IT and Open-Source Tools
    Sep 2 2026
    In episode 127 of The Permaculture Vine Podcast, host Cormac Harkin was joined by Dominik Jais.The conversation covered Dominik’s introduction to permaculture, his diploma work, the development of his Finnish homestead, digital permaculture, artificial intelligence, open-source alternatives, his book Digital Permaculture and his work with the European Permaculture Network.Who’s at the TableDominik Jais lives in Finland. He is a web developer, permaculture diploma tutor and lead of the European Permaculture Network’s software. He also runs the Beyond Buckthorns permaculture homestead and wrote the book Digital Permaculture.From Coding to PermacultureDominik first encountered permaculture in New York in 2014 after meeting people involved in DIY biogas projects through a local hackspace. During the visit, he attended a final presentation connected with a Permaculture Design Certificate course and heard a permaculture project being presented.He continued learning through books, websites and videos before completing an intensive two-week PDC in Finland in 2018 with George Sobol. At the time, Dominik and his wife were already gardening and beginning to develop designs for their own property.Dominik later began his Diploma in Applied Permaculture Design. His existing projects provided material for the diploma, including work on a barn and a communications design for the Finnish Permaculture Association.Beyond Buckthorns in FinlandDominik and his wife began developing Beyond Buckthorns after moving to their property in 2016. The project involves transforming the existing space into a permaculture homestead.The property includes several gardens and indoor growing areas. Dominik described an indoor food forest built into an old barn using reclaimed glass from a municipal building renovation in Tampere. The space is used mainly for perennial plants, with some annual crops such as tomatoes.The property also has a greenhouse and a recently completed partially sunken greenhouse. This was created from an old garage containing a working ditch below the frost line. Dominik plans to use it for trees that would otherwise struggle with the area’s winter temperatures.Their outdoor growing includes garlic, vegetables and a range of berries. They do not currently keep livestock, although they have a cat named Ms Sophie.Courses, Consultancy and Design WorkBeyond Buckthorns hosts different forms of permaculture education. Dominik’s wife, Lumia, teaches an introduction to permaculture course in Finnish. Dominik has taught two PDCs in English and usually runs a biogas course every other year.They have also tested a regenerative energy course and different teaching formats. One format that has worked well is their design camp, which provides a direct and hands-on introduction to permaculture design.Dominik also undertakes occasional design and consultancy work. The projects vary according to what comes to them, with the largest consultancy project discussed covering approximately 12 hectares.Biogas in a Cold ClimateThe conversation included the biogas system Dominik installed inside the converted barn. He explained that methane production is highest at approximately 37°C and declines as the temperature falls.To operate the system in Finland, he placed it indoors and used approximately 40 centimetres of insulation. He combined it with a solar vacuum-tube collector, circulating hot water through the IBC containing the system.The barn now contains the biogas system, the indoor food forest and a teaching classroom.Applying Permaculture to Digital SystemsDominik distinguished between using digital tools for conventional permaculture work and applying permaculture design within a digital context.For property design, he uses QGIS along with graphics software including Inkscape, GIMP and Affinity. The choice depends on the requirements and complexity of the project.Dominik described digital permaculture as permaculture design conducted within a digital context. It still involves observation, ethics, principles, a design process and an assessment of available options.Cormac used his planned home server system as an example. The proposed system would store podcast files and family photographs while allowing files to be accessed and shared remotely.Dominik discussed examining whether a network-attached storage system was required, whether existing equipment could meet the need and whether open-source or proprietary software was appropriate. He also noted that a proprietary system might remain the practical choice if operating an open-source alternative placed excessive demands on the user.Artificial Intelligence and Digital ChoicesCormac described using AI-generated elements inside Affinity to create visual representations of greenhouses and trees for property designs.Dominik raised the energy and hardware requirements associated with artificial intelligence, including mineral extraction and the production of computing equipment....
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    55 min
  • 126. Off-Grid Living, Productive Gardens and Natural Building

    126. Off-Grid Living, Productive Gardens and Natural Building
    Aug 27 2026
    In episode 126 of The Permaculture Vine Podcast, host Cormac Harkin was joined by Steven Golemboski-Byrne.The conversation covered Steven’s introduction to permaculture, the development of his property in County Down, food growing, off-grid energy, natural building, biogas and the permaculture gathering in Ireland.Who’s at the TableSteven Golemboski-Byrne is based in County Down, Northern Ireland. He has been involved in permaculture for 15 years and lives off-grid at Lackin Cottage Farm. His work includes providing power systems for people who cannot or do not want to connect to the electricity grid, alongside consultancy on buildings, heating systems, natural materials, greywater recycling and water treatment.An Introduction to Permaculture in BangorSteven first encountered permaculture while working on a community farm project in Bangor. The farm’s owners wanted to develop community farming and social-prescribing activities, but the people involved did not yet have a clear plan for organising the site.Philip Allen delivered a one-day introduction to permaculture for the group. Steven said the course left him with more questions than he had beforehand, but it helped the project develop a long-term design. Work on that design was still continuing 15 years later.Steven subsequently visited projects in Wales, including Lammas Ecovillage, where he met Simon and Jasmine Dale. He was also part of a group attempting to establish another ecovillage in Wales. Although that project did not proceed, the group had already considered how permaculture could inform the design of a future site.Finding Land and Making an Initial PlanSteven and his family wanted to live off-grid and travelled to different projects to see how other people were doing it. Before finding land, they developed a list of things they might want to include and considered how they could earn a living.Their budget was a major factor when looking for a property. They eventually found land in County Down containing some woodland, along with ground that had previously been closely grazed by sheep.Once they had the property, they considered which parts of their earlier plans were suitable for that particular site. They produced an initial five-year plan and a first permaculture design for the property.Renovating the Cottage and Working OutwardsWhen Steven and his family received the keys, the house was derelict. They had previously lived in a converted truck, which they brought to the new property.With Claire pregnant and their daughter Lyra due to be born, they had 14 weeks to make the cottage habitable. Their first priorities were shelter, heating, bathing and somewhere to sleep.Food was initially grown in bags and containers because there was no prepared growing area outside. Rubble from work on the cottage was used while putting infrastructure in place, and development gradually moved outwards from the house.Once they had enough dry ground, they established a route to the planned polytunnel, began improving the soil and started planting. They also planted large numbers of trees during the first few years so that the trees could begin growing without losing another season.Practical Work Before the PDCSteven did not complete a Permaculture Design Certificate until 2018, several years after arriving at the property in 2012.Before taking the course, he had already helped to organise gatherings, facilitated courses and contributed sessions about the work taking place on the farm. Hannah Moll taught courses at the property, including during its first year.Steven completed his PDC in Wicklow. He described the course as practical and hands-on, while also providing more detail about subjects including ponds, soil and the process of developing a design with other people.Food, Fuel and a Local Group of HouseholdsThe property initially concentrated on producing food for Steven’s family rather than operating as a CSA.Steven described a loose local group of four or five families who grow food and keep different animals. Food and other resources are exchanged within the group, which also places wholefood orders through Suma.During lockdown, members worked together on larger jobs, including erecting polytunnels. They would work at one property before moving to the next. This arrangement has continued, although the group no longer meets for shared work as often.Lackin Cottage Farm has usually kept chickens, although it had no chickens at the time of the conversation. Steven also keeps horses. One of the horses can undertake field work, move materials and pull timber.The property grows much of its own fuel. Existing woodland has been supplemented by thousands of planted trees, coppice and double hedgerows.Adjusting the Amount of Food Being GrownThe amount of food grown at the property has changed over time. Steven explained that the vegetable-growing operation became too large to maintain comfortably, even when the systems were designed to require less ...
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    59 min
  • 125. School-Bus Living, Off-Grid Systems and Community Stewardship

    125. School-Bus Living, Off-Grid Systems and Community Stewardship
    Aug 26 2026
    In episode 125 of The Permaculture Vine Podcast, host Cormac Harkin was joined by Lindsay Brandon for a Permaculture Canada livestream covering her move from Calgary to an off-grid school bus in Golden, British Columbia.The conversation covered Lindsay’s move from Calgary to a school bus in Golden, British Columbia, the practical systems needed for living off-grid, joining an established community, shared food production, sociocracy, creative work, travel and the future use of the bus.Who’s at the TableLindsay Brandon is moving from Calgary, Alberta, to Golden, British Columbia. Her work includes permaculture design, yoga instruction, music, illustration and sculpture. At the time of the conversation, she was preparing a camperized school bus for the move while continuing to undertake permaculture designs and planning upcoming travel to Iceland and Thailand.Cormac Harkin is the host of The Permaculture Vine Podcast. He joined Lindsay for this Permaculture Canada livestream and discussed her move, the bus conversion, off-grid systems, community arrangements and future plans.Leaving Calgary and DownsizingLindsay had lived in Calgary while raising her children for 23 years. With her children now adults and out of the house, she decided to stop renting a three-bedroom property in the city and move into a school bus in Golden.The decision followed winter travel with her partner through six countries in Central America. They were looking for places where they might spend Canadian winters while retaining a home in Canada near family and their children.Maintaining a city house while travelling created considerable overhead. After returning to Calgary, Lindsay found that the house was larger than she needed. She wanted to move away from the noise and routines of the city and spend more time on the land.The move also required a significant reduction in belongings. Lindsay estimated that she sold around 70 per cent of what she owned. This took approximately three months of managing listings, calls, collections and negotiations through Facebook Marketplace.She retained her instruments, recording equipment, seasonal clothing and other belongings that she still needed. These are being stored in a rented 20-foot shipping container near the airport, allowing her to collect or exchange equipment and seasonal items when she returns to Calgary.Making Space for Creative WorkLindsay described the move as an opportunity to spend more time on music, songwriting, painting, illustration and sculpture.In Calgary, she had a large music studio but generally used it only occasionally in the evenings. On the land, she intends to create music with other artists, build sculptures in the woods and paint murals on the school bus and shipping containers.She also plans to use a virtual reality headset to transfer her illustrations onto larger surfaces. Drawings can be loaded into an application, enlarged to the required scale and viewed against the surface being painted. Lindsay intends to use this process to turn sketches into large murals on the bus and other structures.A future music studio may be housed in a yurt. She also discussed purchasing two shipping containers and using them as separate workshop spaces beneath a large covered structure.Stewarding Land Without Owning ItThe conversation considered the difference between purchasing land and entering an arrangement to inhabit and help steward land owned by someone else.Lindsay is exploring agreements based on the needs of both the landowners and the people living there. She mentioned bartering, trading and contributing skills as possible parts of these arrangements.She plans to spend a year living in the school bus on the property before deciding where to position it permanently. This will allow time to observe different parts of the land before choosing a longer-term location.Lindsay and her partner are also considering eventually building an earthship. She said they hoped to begin that process the following year, but the location had not yet been selected.The initial infrastructure may include two shipping containers with a Quonset-style roof between or above them. The containers would provide workshop space, while the covered area could be used to protect the school bus and other vehicles during the snowy Golden winters when Lindsay and her partner are travelling elsewhere.Preparing the School BusThe vehicle is a full-sized International school bus that had already been camperized. Lindsay thought it was approximately 25 feet long but was not certain of the measurement.At the time of the recording, the bus could not safely make the journey through the mountain pass to Golden. It needed a fuel pump and new tyres, so it was due to be transported on a flatbed. A diesel mechanic in the area would be able to work on it after it arrived.The bus already had plumbing, curtains, shelving and considerable storage. A friend removed part of the former bunk-bed structure and built a ...
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    1 ora e 1 min
  • 124. Permaculture Projects, Off-Grid Living and Community Teams

    124. Permaculture Projects, Off-Grid Living and Community Teams
    Aug 25 2026
    In episode 124 of The Permaculture Vine Podcast, host Cormac Harkin was joined by Lindsay Brandon of Permaculture Canada and Neal Hegarty from Lake Atitlán in Guatemala.The conversation covered Lindsay’s current design projects and planned move into a school bus, approaches to managing human waste, Neal’s greywater work around Lake Atitlán, the selection of plants for riparian areas, and their experiences of building teams around permaculture projects.Who’s at the TableLindsay Brandon joined from Calgary, where she had been based for 19 years. Through Permaculture Canada, she was working on projects with a First Nations community on Vancouver Island, an agricultural and guest accommodation property outside Calgary, and a women’s wellness retreat centre and residence in Oaxaca. She was also preparing to move into a school bus in British Columbia.Neal Hegarty joined from Lake Atitlán in Guatemala. He was working from his farm and collaborating with local people, farmers, nonprofit organisations and the municipality of San Pedro on greywater, planting and land regeneration projects. He was also running a training community connecting landowners with developing designers and teachers.Current Permaculture Canada ProjectsLindsay described a First Nations project on Vancouver Island that began in May. The work involved meeting members of the community, discussing their vision for the future and exploring how permaculture could be incorporated into their communities. It also included conversations about ancestral knowledge and connections between elders and younger people.Outside Calgary, she was working on a small agricultural property that also operates as a luxury bed-and-breakfast rental with horses. The property includes an adobe house, and Lindsay was preparing to collect drone footage for the base maps she would use in the design.Her third main project was a women’s wellness retreat centre and residence on a site of just under five acres near Salchi and Zipolite in Oaxaca. She was collaborating with Scott Howard of Earth in Hand, who was expected to build earthen homes as part of the project. They had recently completed a site visit together.Preparing to Live in a School BusLindsay was preparing to leave Calgary and move into a converted school bus in the mountains of British Columbia. Although the bus had already been adapted for accommodation, she planned to remove bunk beds and create an office, music table and library area. A damaged bed frame also needed to be replaced because of concerns about water damage and air quality.The planned off-grid setup included solar panels, a Blue Eddy power unit with an additional battery, a solar-powered cooler and a propane on-demand water heater. The aim was to have enough stored power for approximately three days, depending on available sunlight.The bus was not running, despite attempts to identify a possible fuel-pump problem. Its tyres were also too worn for a journey through the Rocky Mountains. The immediate plan was therefore to transport it on a flatbed, while retaining the longer-term aim of getting it running so that it could be moved around the property.Lindsay was also considering whether to move the collection of fruit and support plants currently growing in her Calgary garden. The collection included cherries, haskaps, currants, gooseberries, grapes, hops and buffalo berry, with around 53 berry bushes planted in a small area.Toilets and Human-Waste CompostingThe school bus did not have a toilet system. Lindsay discussed beginning with either a simple bucket toilet and a three-stage composting arrangement or a pit toilet.She described the three-stage approach as filling one composting area, leaving it to rest and moving on to the next. This would allow the material to remain in place over a number of years before being used as compost.Cormac described several systems he had encountered. One directed solid waste into a large container containing composting worms, while urine was separated and passed through a reed bed. Another used replaceable wheelie bins beneath a raised toilet, with sawdust added after use. Full bins could then be moved aside and left to process while another bin was placed beneath the toilet.Lindsay had seen a wheelie-bin arrangement used at a gathering in Panama. She recalled that the toilets were continuously maintained, the bins were changed regularly and the system produced little smell. For her own site, she expected to use sawdust and said that protecting the surrounding watershed would be a primary consideration.Greywater Work at Lake AtitlánNeal described a kitchen greywater project that had been operating successfully before the work expanded into a larger collaboration with the municipality of San Pedro.The municipality had asked him to examine a beachfront area intended to become an eco-park. The site had large streams of dirty greywater entering a narrow section of beach. An existing proposal involved ...
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