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The Other 22 Hours

The Other 22 Hours

Di: Michaela Anne Aaron Shafer-Haiss
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An exploration of the creative life, lived in the in-between.

A sanctuary for the creative spirit in a results-obsessed world.

Moving beyond the highlight reel, hosts and working musicians Aaron Shafer-Haiss and Michaela Anne facilitate intimate, artist-to-artist conversations with renowned musicians, authors, visual artists and actors about the grit required to sustain a life in the arts. From navigating doubt to finding stillness, this is the reality of the work. Unfiltered.


2023-26 The 0ther 22 Hours Podcast Arte Economia Intrattenimento e arti dello spettacolo Musica Ricerca del lavoro Scienze sociali Successo personale
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  • Buddy Miller on going broke, staying grounded after the applause, and a $50 plastic guitar in the Hall of Fame.

    Buddy Miller on going broke, staying grounded after the applause, and a $50 plastic guitar in the Hall of Fame.
    Oct 14 2026
    If you don't know Buddy Miller by name, you probably know his work. He joined Emmylou Harris's band, has worked with artists from Robert Plant to Patty Griffin, is a Grammy winner and a multiple-time Instrumentalist of the Year with the Americana Music Association, and served as executive music producer of the television series Nashville. Yet the collaboration he returns to most is the one at home. Buddy and his wife, Julie Miller, have made music together for more than forty years, through bankruptcy, a van full of gear, and the point where the road became too hard on her. In this open conversation, Buddy reflects on the pull between producer and partner, his honesty about where he fell short, and the record they made in the corner of their bedroom with red lights glowing in the dark. "We survived," he says. "We came out different."In This Episode:Buddy MillerJulie MillerTime Out of Mind / Bob DylanBuddy Miller's Majestic Silver StringsMarc RibotBill FrisellGreg LeiszJay BelleroseDennis CrouchChocolate GeniusPaul KennerleyViktor KraussDelbert McClintonKinky Friedman and the Texas JewboysRodeo BarSonny's Bar (Red Hook)Smokey HormelBarbésJohn LeventhalGurf MorlixLucinda WilliamsBilly BlockEp 26 - Katie PruittEp 1 - Aaron Lee TasjanEp 16 - Rodney CrowellT Bone BurnettGo Deeper:Watch: View this entire conversation on YouTube.Explore: Find similar conversations in these themed playlists.Connect: Join the conversation on Instagram.The Hosts:The Other 22 Hours is hosted by Aaron Shafer-Haiss (Producer/Mixer) and Michaela Anne (Songwriter/Creative Coach).More about Aaron’s work.More about Michaela Anne’s work.Credits: Produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Original music written, performed and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Part of the Bluegrass Situation Podcast Network.
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    45 min
  • Dan Wilson (Semisonic, Adele) on rewriting career ambition, unlearning "should," and the agony of a #1 hit.

    Dan Wilson (Semisonic, Adele) on rewriting career ambition, unlearning "should," and the agony of a #1 hit.
    Oct 7 2026

    Dan Wilson’s songs have shaped our collective cultural landscape, from Semisonic’s enduring anthem "Closing Time" to Grammy-winning collaborations like Adele’s "Someone Like You," The Chicks' "Not Ready to Make Nice," Chris Stapleton's "White Horse" and Jon Batiste's "It Never Went Away." Yet behind four decades of catalog mastery lies a quiet, rigorous inner examination of what it means to build an artistic life.

    In this spacious conversation, Dan reflects on stepping off the tour bus during the height of rock success to care for his medically fragile newborn daughter, the radical freedom of striking the word "should" entirely from one's creative vocabulary, and why he spent the entire ascent of a global number-one single terrified instead of celebrating.

    In This Episode:

    • Dan Wilson
    • Semisonic
    • "Don't Give Up Yet"
    • Rick Rubin
    • Carole King
    • Trip Shakespeare
    • Ep 60 - Lori McKenna
    • Ep 17 - Elizabeth Cook
    • Nick Launay
    • Amy Winehouse
    • Bonnaroo
    • Hardly Strictly Bluegrass
    • Emmylou Harris
    • Ep 46 - Mary Chapin Carpenter
    • Frank Stella


    Go Deeper:

    • Watch: View this entire conversation on YouTube.
    • Explore: Find similar conversations in these themed playlists.
    • Connect: Join the conversation on Instagram.

    The Hosts:

    The Other 22 Hours is hosted by Aaron Shafer-Haiss (Producer/Mixer) and Michaela Anne (Songwriter/Creative Coach).

    • More about Aaron’s work.
    • More about Michaela Anne’s work.

    Credits:

    Produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Original music written, performed and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Part of the Bluegrass Situation Podcast Network.
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    50 min
  • Medium Build on shadow work, hedges of protection, and fearing your barista.

    Medium Build on shadow work, hedges of protection, and fearing your barista.
    Sep 30 2026

    Between late-night TV appearances and relentless album sprints, how does a working artist remain anchored in their own life? This week, we sit down with Nick Carpenter (Medium Build), whose catalog of raw, empathetic storytelling has earned him critical acclaim, tours with Mumford and Sons and Tyler Childers, and fans likes of Elton John, John Mayer, and boygenius. We discuss the exhausting trap of algorithmic omnipresence, the Jungian necessity of integrating our shadows rather than suppressing them, and the profound wisdom passed to him by Ben Kweller on honoring the muse. It is a generous, disarming exploration into stepping off the treadmill of validation and reclaiming art as an act of service rather than a product.

    In This Episode:

    • Medium Build
    • Jimmy Kimmel
    • Rosie Rush
    • Carl Jung
    • Duke's (Nashville)
    • Niall Horan
    • Gandalf (The Lord of the Rings)
    • Bonnaroo
    • Ben Kweller


    Go Deeper:

    • Watch: View this entire conversation on YouTube.
    • Explore: Find similar conversations in these themed playlists.
    • Connect: Join the conversation on Instagram.

    The Hosts:

    The Other 22 Hours is hosted by Aaron Shafer-Haiss (Producer/Mixer) and Michaela Anne (Songwriter/Creative Coach).

    • More about Aaron’s work.
    • More about Michaela Anne’s work.

    Credits:

    Produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Original music written, performed and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Part of the Bluegrass Situation Podcast Network.
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    44 min
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