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The Jungian Drift

The Jungian Drift

Di: Robert Carriger & Claire Kohne
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Conversations about contemporary developments in Jungian psychology. Join us as we circumambulate the Jungian world!


We are student analytical training candidates at the C.G. Jung Institute of San Francisco in discussion with fellow students, local and visiting Jungian analysts and other people who are finding new and creative ways to apply Jungian ideas in the world beyond analysis.


The Jungian Drift podcast launched on July 1, 2026 when we began publishing twice monthly episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Youtube, Amazon/Audible and our website serviced by Buzzsprout. In November we will shift to releasing one episode per month.


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  • Listening to the Patient: A Conversation with Sally Kaufmann, MD
    Oct 15 2026

    Join us as we get to know C.G. Jung Institute of San Francisco alumna and analyst emerita Sally Kaufmann, MD. Sally began her Jungian journey in the 1960's at a time when women were still a novelty in the Institute program. She trained with local legends such as Joseph Henderson, Joseph Wheelwright and Kay Bradway - to name a few - while applying her Jungian philosophy to work directing a community mental health clinic as well as to her analytic private practice.

    The Jungian Drift podcast is intended for educational purposes only and any statements made in this episode should not be considered to be mental health treatment advice.

    Recorded on June 6, 2025. Edited by Claire Kohne. Thumbnail image of San Francisco from the Internet Archive. Special thanks to this episode's guest intro/outro reader, Claudia Norton.

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    44 min
  • Dreams from the Street with Dr. Paul Watsky
    Oct 1 2026

    San Francisco Jungian analyst Paul Watsky, PhD, interprets three volunteer "person on the street" volunteers' dreams to demonstrate how he would approach dreamwork in his practice.

    Though Dr. Watsky suggests possible meanings for the dreams, he is clear that these are only hypotheses to guide further inquiry. The purpose here is not to make a clinical assessment, rather it is to illustrate a Jungian analyst's approach to dreamwork with the caveat that there is not enough information in these vignettes to make any definitive conclusions.

    This episode would not be possible without the generosity of our three dreamers who granted us permission to share their dreams plus a few details about their lives. We don't use their real names in the episode. To be clear, our volunteer dreamers are not psychotherapy patients.

    The Jungian Drift podcast is intended for educational purposes only and any statements made in this episode should not be considered to be mental health treatment advice.

    Recorded on February 12, 2025. Edited by Claire Kohne. The thumbnail image was sourced from Wikimedia Commons. Special thanks to this episode's guest intro/outro reader, Sarah Camenson.

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  • Complexes and Consciousness
    Sep 15 2026

    Join host Sebastian Sheldon, PhD, in conversation with his fellow candidate in analytical training at the C.G. Jung Institute of San Francisco, Robert Carriger, LMFT, as they explore the theoretical possibilities when Jung's concept of unconscious complexes is applied to consciousness in general. Expanding Jung's original concept of complexes to include all conscious experience leads to such surreal possibilities as full consciousness being a sort of daytime waking dream, and even points to a potential for dual centers of sentience that operate simultaneously in one mind.

    This episode was our third try at recording a podcast back in 2024, an experiment with no thoughts that it would ever be published. Given the freedom to just say what he thinks without needing to worry about qualifying his ideas or citing the literature, Robert runs with it, accompanied and encouraged by fellow student Sebastian.

    We hope that whatever this episode lacks in academic niceties, it makes up for in the passionate energy of the conversation: a conversation between two students wrestling with questions which really matter to them. We invite you to listen in.

    The Jungian Drift podcast is intended for educational purposes only and any statements made in this episode should not be considered to be mental health treatment advice.

    Recorded on November 1, 2024. Edited by Claire Kohne. Thumbnail image is from a painting called Sun Breaking through Clouds above the Roman Campagna, by Swiss landscape painter Johann Jakob Frey, circa 1844. It was sourced from the public domain via The National Gallery of DC. Special thanks to this episode's guest intro/outro reader, Mitch Brown.

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    47 min
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