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The Human Conversation Podcast on Leadership and Ethics

The Human Conversation Podcast on Leadership and Ethics

Di: Kaumudi Goda
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How do today's leaders navigate complex ethical dilemmas while inspiring teams, creating trust, and driving results?

Welcome to The Human Conversation Podcast on Leadership and Ethics, a podcast exploring the intersection of leadership, ethics, and organizational culture.


Join host Kaumudi Goda as she engages visionary executives, thought leaders, and changemakers in candid conversations about integrity and purpose-driven leadership.


You’ll hear perspectives from diverse fields, including business, government, advocacy, academia, and the arts.

  • What guiding principles shape a leader’s approach to ethical challenges?
  • How can we foster ethical cultures amid competing priorities?
  • Can ethics and profit coexist?


Tune in as we tackle these compelling questions and examine leadership case studies from the latest headlines.

Copyright 2024 Kaumudi Goda Economia Scienze sociali
Episodi
  • Human Conversation with Jenny Garrett

    Human Conversation with Jenny Garrett
    Oct 5 2026
    Get To Know Our Guest:Jenny GarrettJenny Garrett OBE began life in social housing in North West London, with an early commitment that where you start should never limit where you arrive. Two decades on, she is the founder and CEO of Jenny Garrett Global, the award-winning leadership consultancy she started in 2006 and still leads. Her belief is simple: potential is everywhere, but opportunity is not, and the work of leadership is to close that gap. It is a promise borne out by results, with 35%+ of participants promoted during her programmes and 98% recommending them.Jenny’s work spans three connected pillars: Inclusive, Entrepreneurial and AI-Ready Leadership. She is the author of the bestselling “Rocking Your Role” and “Equality vs Equity,” and, with her daughter Leah-Sunshine Garrett, co-author of AI for Equity (Emerald Publishing) and co-host of the podcast of the same name. She holds an OBE for services to entrepreneurship and women in business, and is a Companion of the Institute of Leadership and Management, its highest honour. HIGHLIGHTS & TAKEAWAYS:DR. KG: Jenny, you're a very well known and beloved figure, but for the sake of the audiences who are listening to you for the first time, can you share a little bit about yourself and your journey in life so far?JENNY: My journey has always been ultimately about empowering people. As a result, I've not just created my business providing leadership development, but also created other opportunities such as a social enterprise called Rocking Your Teens that has taken three and a half thousand young people through our doors over the last 13 years. And also something called the Diverse Executive Coach Directory, where we have about 60 coaches who we promote so that people can know that there are choices out there to have coaches all over the world.DR. KG: Jenny, you started in marketing, then it's coaching, then leadership training, leadership programs, writing, work with teenagers, assembling a large diverse group of coaches specifically to address the lack of diversity that might be available to people. So many different and impressive accomplishments, work that is impactful and is needed in the world. But what is a red thread that ties all of it together for you?JENNY: I think it's two things. I think it's about fairness. I really care about fairness. And I really want everyone to have the same opportunity for success. So I think fairness is part of it. But also empowerment. It's not just making sure everyone has the same opportunity, but making sure everyone knows inside that they might be different, but equally as good as everyone else. I really want people to understand that your difference is powerful. We don't have to be the same as everyone else. And actually that difference is your uniqueness is what makes you really special. And it's finding the spaces in which you can really flourish. I think there's a saying, if you ask a fish to ride a bicycle, it will always be unsuccessful, you know? And it's about finding those spaces where actually, you know, put the fish in water, it's amazing. And finding those spaces for us all to flourish.DR. KG: Fairness, equity, inclusion, these values that shine through so powerfully in what you said just now. What are those values rooted in? Where does that primal cry come from that you want to bring this to the world?JENNY: I come from a line of very strong women. My grandmother, absolutely, my grandmother came to the UK and started a life for all of us with my grandfather, but she was definitely the strong matriarch. And then my mum, who was the first in our family to get a degree actually, you know, in this line, she studied in her thirties to become a school teacher. And that very much empowered my brother and I and showed us what was possible. I feel like these women have had to fight hard for what they've been able to achieve and they've done it. But I guess I would love it to be easier for others. They've had to really recognize their own potential when other people didn't see it. And I want to be me and my company. I want to be that for others. I want to hold a mirror up to them and say, look, this is what I see and this is what is possible for you.JENNY: I think my grandmother, she had such a big heart. I think she absolutely showed me what's possible, even with very little. And then my mum sort of breaking boundaries and breaking barriers too. I would also say I have a daughter who's nearly 25. And there's definitely something about becoming a parent that made me want to step up. I suddenly saw myself as a role model. I knew that when she was looking at me she was seeing what was possible and that meant that I need to step out of my comfort zone so that she could too. So it's the women in my life that definitely create that line through that desire to make a difference.DR. KG: Accomplished people who fight hard and do amazing, miraculous things that challenge the notion of what is possible ...
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    43 min
  • Human Conversation with Dr. Vance Cooper

    Human Conversation with Dr. Vance Cooper
    Sep 8 2026
    Get To Know Our Guest:Dr. Vance CooperDr. Vance Cooper is a leadership development consultant and mental health advocate with 10 years of experience in acute inpatient mental health. With a Ph.D. in Corporate Leadership, he helps people prioritize mental and emotional well-being by equipping them with tools to unlock unrealized leadership potential, without compromising authenticity. His workshops and keynotes blend compassion with clarity, challenging audiences to lead themselves with the same care they extend to others. HIGHLIGHTS & TAKEAWAYS:DR. KG: From your work in the healthcare space, specifically around mental well-being and mental health and how that builds so beautifully into your current work, which is helping individuals find their purpose, find their values, and specifically helping younger people do this, whether it's in terms of their career preparation and planning or simply just finding their place in the world: Is there a red thread that ties all of it together for you? What's the driving force behind all that you do?DR. VANCE: My mission is ultimately to help extraordinary people unlock unrealized leadership potential without compromising authenticity. So from my view, everybody is an extraordinary being. We all have unique talents, we all have a purpose, and we all have a reason that we put on this earth, and we all have a special gift. And so my goal is always to help people recognize their unique talents and gifts and how they are able to walk in their leadership gift.DR. VANCE: My goal is to help everyone recognize that they are a leader in their unique space and in their unique talent and the younger I can breathe or speak that message into a person, I think the better off they will be in the long run.DR. KG: When did a young Dr. Vance Cooper working in the healthcare say, hey, you know what? That specifically is what my calling is. I'm gonna get working on that.DR. VANCE: I was looking to study leadership, but I don't know if I really necessarily looked at myself as a leader, at least from the perspective that I have currently. And so while I was studying the theories, I simultaneously was going through this self-discovery process where I really was, I really had to do a deep self-assessment and just kind of recognizing my own unique gifts and my own unique talents and just recognizing that studying leadership doesn't make necessarily make you a leader.DR. VANCE: I've always had a connection where I wanted to give back. I want to give back to people who are coming after me and being able to help pave the way and help them recognize that the things that I'm accomplishing are very real for them as well.DR. VANCE: I want young people especially to recognize that they should never stop dreaming and that there's all different types of paths that they can take whether they decide to go to trade school, whether they decide to go to higher education, whether they just decide to go directly into the workforce, whether they decide to start working and then maybe later on in life as they get older, they decide that they want to go back to school. There's multiple different paths that people can take to be able to reach their goal. But the important thing is for you to never stop dreaming and to really focus on what you want.DR. VANCE: One of the things that I sincerely want to do is help young people recognize that they should be in order for them to reach their maximum fulfillment and for them to reach their, like their maximum potential, they should be going after what they want.DR. KG: From my own practice, it is sometimes the intergenerational trauma, it is the cultural heritage, it is the historical context. There's so many reasons why at the earliest, I believe it's as young as eight or even six when children already begin to absorb the flag posts, the milestones that, “hey, this is what is possible, this is what is not. Here's what's expected of you.” And that subliminal messaging really goes deeply towards shaping our expectations of ourselves, of life, of the world, the lens with which we see the world and experience it.DR. KG: Can you tell me a little bit from the perspective of your work, what the terms ethics and integrity mean to you?DR. VANCE: When I think about ethics and integrity, I think about character. I think about trust. For me, I think that character is one of the most important aspects of leadership because if people aren't able to trust you, it's going to be very hard for people to follow you.DR. VANCE: Good character is definitely a part of being acting in an ethical manner with integrity. One of the things about it is that when you are somebody who has people following you, once it's been determined that the people cannot trust you, trust is something that, it's almost like it's your currency. Once people feel like you've misled them or you've given them a reason to break that trust, it's very hard to get that trust or to earn that trust back from the ...
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  • Human Conversation with Bob Sheard

    Human Conversation with Bob Sheard
    Jul 2 2026
    Get To Know Our Guest:Bob SheardBob Sheard is a leading brand strategist and practitioner, and the author of The Brand New Future: How Brands Can Save the World (LID Publishing), a book shortlisted for the Business Book Awards that sets out a practical roadmap for building successful brands that contribute to a more just and regenerative world. As the Co-Founder of the brand design agency FreshBritain, Bob has designed more than 200 global brands across his career, working with names such as Nike, Levi's, Dr. Martens, Arc'teryx, and New Balance. His approach is defined by going deep to find a brand's truth and the results speak for themselves: FreshBritain helped reposition Dr. Martens around "rebellious self-expression," guiding the brand from €90 million in turnover, amid a double-digit decline, to a €3.5 billion flotation in eleven years.Today, Bob is widely recognized as one of the most influential voices on what brands are for and what they owe the world.HIGHLIGHTS & TAKEAWAYS:KG: You've had such an interesting career. A brand strategist, C suite advisor, founder, sustainability advocate, author, educator, mentor, just to name a few. Is there a red thread that connects all of this for you? What was the driving force behind all that you do?BOB: The red thread is opportunism, just seeing where I think I can add value and going there. Others would say it's a heavy dose of ADHD, continuously moving on to the next thing. I'd say sort of it's really the product of a restless mind, ambition. It's part restless mind.BOB: For someone who used to work on a market stall in Bradford, it's an exciting prospect to see where that kind of thinking and that the way my brain works and see where that will take me. so that and it has taken me into education, into boardrooms, into publishers and yeah, just that's the red thread really.KG: At some point you must have made a conscious decision that, well, I'm going to do this. I'm going to pursue the curiosity of my mind. When did that happen?BOB: I went to a school, comprehensive school in Halifax, West Yorkshire, which has since been closed down and I was studying for my A levels. I did my A levels and I did four and I did them in economics art, general studies and history and I got three Es, so just about scrape to pass and then one A. And that A along with another guy at the school was the first A our school had ever got at A level. And they were beaming that the school had managed to get this A. And so at that point I realised maybe there's a brain inside there somehow that can, once I know where the goalposts are, I can figure out a way.BOB: Retook my A levels, so I got sufficient N grades to get to the London College of Fashion. And it was a very interesting conversation to go onto the building site to tell the guys I'd got entry into the London College of Fashion, because I kept that secret. So was at that point you kind of realize, I've got the ability to find a way. So then I realized, I didn't quite know, but it's a continuous journey, isn't it? It's just trying to figure out that sometimes your thinking thoughts are the people don't have and they add value.KG: I've always wondered, you're a branding expert, and I always wonder what that does to a child's mind to be categorized or branded, if you'll permit, that they are a certain way, that they should follow a certain path. And for that child to break those shackles and then decide to be creative and pursue and make up a path as they go along?BOB: You've got these three brothers who went to this local primary school, couldn't speak a word of Indian English, didn't have a great time in the industrial North, but managed to find a way to create the most amazing careers and what really struck me was I went to Chicago and the three brothers were there and all their kids were there but for the first time. I said, the really interesting powerful thing is the harvest of your mother's and father's sacrifice in being first generation. I just think that's such a powerful argument for immigration that actually there is a dynamic dynamo type power in a second generation immigrant to not want their parents life to be a sacrifice in vain and therefore they go a bit further, a bit faster to make their lives worthy of the sacrifice of their parents. And so I just don't think anyone makes the case, the economic case for that enough.KG: You're a futurist and you talk about how countries have brands, and those brands can change a people, a cultural ethos of the future itself of the entire planet. When I think about this vision, it comes across to me as very humanist, very universal, a kind and compassionate one. In that context, I was curious about the theme of this podcast being ethics and integrity, what do these terms mean to you?BOB: I think with ethics, that's kind of our moral compass. That's guiding principles and protocols of our life. And integrity is how we deploy our behavior to meet that compass. So that's our ...
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    57 min
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