Most people don’t know what to do after an affair—especially in the church, where people suffer quietly and don’t know where to go. In this episode, I sit down with Rick Reynolds (founder of Affair Recovery), and we talk about his own story of betrayal, addiction, a vision, and what actually helps couples heal.

We unpack betrayal trauma (and why intrusive thoughts don’t mean you’re “crazy”), why trickle-truth keeps re-injuring the relationship, what the betrayed spouse needs early on, and why a legit recovery timeline is closer to 18–24 months—not a couple weeks and a “sorry.”

Also, a reminder that if you’re dealing with this topic right now, you’re not alone—and there’s a path forward.

Enjoy

-Kyle

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*🎙 About The Show*

Kyle Van Ruitenburg gets Furiously Curious with honest, raw, and sometimes laugh-out-loud chats about the stories, beliefs, and worldviews that shape how people see the world.

From Business and Faith to Life and everything in between, no topic is off the table.

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Thanks for watching, and God bless.

The Briefcase & The Barn is hosted by two Dutch Reformed misfits who’ve spent most of their lives in the church’s side-eye.

Kyle Van Ruitenburg is the PK and connections guy who’s been around the world (and yes—straight off the boat). Gary Baars is the money guy who’s been around just about every farm and cow.

Together, they have blunt, funny, real talk about business, life, faith, culture, and the stuff Christians usually don't talk about.

Recorded on the west coast of Canada in Chilliwack, BC.

New episodes every Wednesday at 5 am PST.

Created & produced by *The Furiously Curious Company.*

#ToGodBeTheGlory

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*Chapters*

0:00 Episode Topics

0:19 Intro

2:39 Feedback on Adoption

12:15 Running a Christian Business

31:18 Calendar Wars

36:06 We’re Hiring

41:41 Condo Market Mess

The Briefcase & The Barn is hosted by two Dutch Reformed misfits who’ve spent most of their lives in the church’s side-eye.

Kyle Van Ruitenburg is the PK and connections guy who’s been around the world (and yes—straight off the boat). Gary Baars is the money guy who’s been around just about every farm and cow.

Together, they have blunt, funny, real talk about business, life, faith, culture, and the stuff Christians usually don't talk about.

Recorded on the west coast of Canada in Chilliwack, BC.

New episodes every Wednesday at 5 am PST.

Created & produced by *The Furiously Curious Company.*

#ToGodBeTheGlory

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www.furiouslycurious.co/donate

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📞 *Interested in Kyle's Coaching, Recruiting, or Employment Opportunities?*

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*Chapters*

0:00 Episode Topics

0:24 Intro

2:46 Jeffrey Epstein

9:46 Self-Denial Ain’t Fun

13:17 Immigration’s a Mess

25:51 Should Alberta Separate?

32:53 Hope for the Future?

42:08 Live Event & Help Wanted

How do you actually know you’re saved?

Not “I grew up in church” saved.

Not “I said the right prayer once” saved.

But genuinely, biblically saved.

In this episode, I sit down with Rob Best to talk honestly about assurance of salvation — how Scripture defines it, where people get it wrong, and why so many Christians live with quiet doubt they never talk about.

We dig into false assurance, real repentance, belief versus behavior, and why following Jesus isn’t about feelings, religious effort, or checking the right boxes. This conversation is shaped by Scripture and lived experience. No fluff. No hype. Just real talk about eternity, repentance, and what it means to truly trust Christ.

Enjoy

-Kyle

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*🎙 About The Show*

Kyle Van Ruitenburg gets Furiously Curious with honest, raw, and sometimes laugh-out-loud chats about the stories, beliefs, and worldviews that shape how people see the world.

From Business and Faith to Life and everything in between, no topic is off the table.

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*Social Media:*

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https://www.instagram.com/furiouslycuriousco/

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Do you know someone who would be a good guest for the podcast?

Email Kyle at kyle@furiouslycurious.co

Thanks for watching, and God bless.

The Briefcase & The Barn is hosted by two Dutch Reformed misfits who’ve spent most of their lives in the church’s side-eye.

Kyle Van Ruitenburg is the PK and connections guy who’s been around the world (and yes—straight off the boat). Gary Baars is the money guy who’s been around just about every farm and cow.

Together, they have blunt, funny, real talk about business, life, faith, culture, and the stuff Christians usually don't talk about.

Recorded on the west coast of Canada in Chilliwack, BC.

New episodes every Wednesday at 5 am PST.

Created & produced by *The Furiously Curious Company.*

#ToGodBeTheGlory

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www.furiouslycurious.co/donate

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📞 *Interested in Kyle's Coaching, Recruiting, or Employment Opportunities?*

Text Kyle: 1-604-703-9045

Email: kyle@furiouslycurious.co

Website: https://www.furiouslycurious.co

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*Chapters*

0:00 Episode Topics

1:11 Randy Savage

7:35 Leaving Church Like Leaving Jesus?

24:55 Gold & Silver Prices

34:42 Beef Prices

40:28 Your Biggest Vice

53:29 Trade Deals with China

59:39 Sports Betting

1:05:29 Plan your sin?

The Briefcase & The Barn is hosted by two Dutch Reformed misfits who’ve spent most of their lives in the church’s side-eye.

Kyle Van Ruitenburg is the PK and connections guy who’s been around the world (and yes—straight off the boat). Gary Baars is the money guy who’s been around just about every farm and cow.

Together, they have blunt, funny, real talk about business, life, faith, culture, and the stuff Christians usually don't talk about.

Recorded on the west coast of Canada in Chilliwack, BC.

New episodes every Wednesday at 5 am PST.

Created & produced by *The Furiously Curious Company.*

#ToGodBeTheGlory

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🤝 *support the show here *👇

www.furiouslycurious.co/donate

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📞 *Interested in Kyle's Coaching, Recruiting, or Employment Opportunities?*

Text Kyle: 1-604-703-9045

Email: kyle@furiouslycurious.co

Website: https://www.furiouslycurious.co

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*Chapters*

0:00 Episode Topics

1:05 Wierks Contracting

5:59 Philip Yancey Affair

15:11 Tucker Carlson Interview

20:01 Helping the Homeless

33:46 Recruiting Ad

36:12 Admiring your Dad

47:03 ICE Protests

52:39 Gun Buy Back

After the success of my last episode with Dr. Hawkins (90k plus downloads), Dr. Hawkins suggested we do a sequel on the impact of emotionally immature men, not on marriages like the first interview, but on the kids.

Dr. Hawkins' colleague, Ernest Hart, also joins us, and we get brutally practical about what emotional immaturity and emotional abuse actually do to a family over time: how it becomes “normal”, why kids eventually detach, how it shows up in church, and so much more.

I really enjoyed this one. I hope you guys do too.

God Bless -Kyle

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Website: https://www.furiouslycurious.co

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*🎙 About The Show*

Kyle Van Ruitenburg gets Furiously Curious with honest, raw, and sometimes laugh-out-loud chats about the stories, beliefs, and worldviews that shape how people see the world.From Business and Faith to Life and everything in between, no topic is off the table.

---

*Social Media:*

https://www.facebook.com/FuriouslyCuriousShow

https://www.instagram.com/furiouslycuriousco/

---

Do you know someone who would be a good guest for the podcast? Email Kyle at kyle@furiouslycurious.co

Thanks for watching, and God bless.

The Briefcase & The Barn is hosted by two Dutch Reformed misfits who’ve spent most of their lives in the church’s side-eye.

Kyle Van Ruitenburg is the PK and connections guy who’s been around the world (and yes—straight off the boat). Gary Baars is the money guy who’s been around just about every farm and cow.

Together, they have blunt, funny, real talk about business, life, faith, culture, and the stuff Christians usually don't talk about.

Recorded on the west coast of Canada in Chilliwack, BC.

New episodes every Wednesday at 5 am PST.

Created & produced by *The Furiously Curious Company.*

#ToGodBeTheGlory

---

🤝 *support the show here *👇

www.furiouslycurious.co/donate

---

📞 *Interested in Kyle's Coaching, Recruiting, or Employment Opportunities?*

Text Kyle: 1-604-703-9045

Email: kyle@furiouslycurious.co

Website: https://www.furiouslycurious.co

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*Social Media:*

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https://www.instagram.com/furiouslycuriousco/

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*Got questions or feedback?*

Email Kyle at kyle@furiouslycurious.co

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*Chapters*

0:00 Episode Topics

1:20 Silver Play Button

5:34 Why I left my last church - Pulling Membership

15:58 Working VS Believing

20:44 A Revolution in Canada?

26:16 Gary & Marie Adoption Journey

38:43 Recruiting Ad

48:21 Gary & Marie Adoption Journey