Most people want anxiety gone. Suzanne Ferree, MD, says it showed up to protect you from something, and that taking it away is where the real work starts.

Dr. Ferree runs Vine Medical in Roswell, Georgia, and was using peptides before most doctors had heard of them. Dr. Kevin White sits down with her to talk about neural therapy, a century-old technique that uses small injections of a numbing agent to shut off the nerve signals keeping the body on alert. Her view is that a lot of chronic illness comes from a body stuck in fight or flight, with the calm, recovery side of the nervous system never getting a turn.

They get into how an old scar or a hidden infection in a tooth can keep the alarm ringing, and a patient whose high blood pressure cleared up once an infected root canal was treated. Ferree tells the story of a woman in her sixties with agoraphobia who hadn’t driven herself anywhere in 15 years and was behind the wheel after about three treatments. She also covers what a visit looks like, why she asks patients to commit to at least three weekly sessions (PTSD can take up to 18), why she stays with patients for a conversation afterward, the patient who didn’t respond to four treatments, and who shouldn’t have it: pregnant patients and people with active cancer.

“How am I supposed to be if I’m not anxious?”
- Patients, as relayed by Suzanne J. Ferree, MD

If you’ve lived on high alert for years, this conversation shows what can happen when the alarm finally lets go.

Ferree teaches neural therapy to other providers every quarter, and her book on the method, The Reset Method, is slated for March. Find her on Instagram at @SuzanneFerreeMD.

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The prestige in fitness runs toward the elite. The math runs the other way.

Peter Park has trained Lance Armstrong, Justin Verlander, Kelly Slater, and numerous pro athletes. A pro, he says, arrives already near the ceiling, so a great year of coaching moves them a few percent. A 60-year-old who hasn't trained since the nineties is nowhere near it, and that same year decides how the rest of his life goes.

Dr. Kevin White sits down with Peter to talk about why the work is smaller than people expect, why he won't train anyone at their house, the 12-year-olds asking him about peptides, and the snail tattoo he got at 61.

"I get a pro athlete, I can change like ten percent. I get someone older, I can change their whole life."
- Peter Park

Learn more about Peter Park at Platinum Fitness Summerland, platinumfitnesssummerland.com. He co-authored the movement work Foundation Training with Dr. Eric Goodman.

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Most people treat a clean lab report as a verdict. Nothing flagged, nothing to do.

Brian Kennedy has spent three decades explaining why that reading is generous. He trained at MIT, led the Buck Institute for Research on Aging, and now directs the Centre for Healthy Longevity at the National University of Singapore. His view is that medicine learned to define disease and never got around to defining health, so the ranges on your lab report mark the minimum that keeps you alive and the maximum that doesn't kill you. Everything in between gets called normal.

Dr. Kevin White sits down with Brian to talk about what belongs in that space. Kennedy's team went looking for the people who are aging unusually well and found their numbers cluster in a far tighter band than the one your lab prints. He is 59, has nothing on his chart, and treats his own numbers anyway.

They also get into why waiting for a diagnosis is a bad trade, what he takes and why, and what his lab found when it bought 16 supplement brands and measured what was actually in the bottles.

"If somebody says they can tell you exactly what to do to make you 10 years younger, they're lying to you or they're lying to themselves."

- Brian Kennedy

If you've ever been handed a normal lab report and wondered what it actually bought you, this conversation gives you something better to aim at.

Learn more about Brian Kennedy's research at medicine.nus.edu.sg/sites/briankennedylab, find Rejuvant at rejuvant.com, and look up his longevity solutions company, Live Beyond.

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