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Somebody Lied When...

Somebody Lied When...

Di: Dr. Kipenzi Herron & Shanelle D. Johnson
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Somebody Lied When... is what happens when two longtime friends and licensed marriage and family therapists start questioning the things we’ve all been told about love, relationships, healing, family, identity, and life.

“Happy wife, happy life.”
“Love is enough.”
“Strong women don’t need help.”
“Time heals all wounds.”

Yeah... somebody lied.

Hosted by Dr. Kipenzi Herron and Shanelle D. Johnson, each episode takes on one of those familiar sayings, assumptions, or rules we have inherited and asks: Where did this come from? Is it actually true? And what happens when real life doesn’t work that way?

Expect real conversation, clinical insight without the therapy-speak, personal stories, cultural context, humor, disagreement, and the kind of conversations friends have when nobody is trying to give the “right” answer.

We are not here to tell you how your relationship, family, healing, or life is supposed to look. We are here to question who told you it had to look that way in the first place.

Real Conversations. Real Life.

New episodes every Tuesday.

2026 Dr. Kipenzi Herron & Shanelle D. Johnson
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  • Somebody Lied When...They Said Marriage is Supposed to Make You Happy
    Oct 20 2026

    You said “I do.” Did you also expect your spouse to become responsible for your happiness?

    Somebody lied when they said marriage is supposed to make you happy. Join Dr. Kipenzi and Shanelle as we unpack what marriage reflects back to you, the patterns it challenges, and the growth it asks of both partners. We explore personal responsibility, emotional connection, and what you can reasonably expect from the person you married.

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    38 min
  • Somebody Lied When...They Said Healing Happens in 50 minutes
    Oct 13 2026

    You get 50 minutes in therapy. What are you doing with the rest of your week?

    Somebody lied when they said healing has to happen 50 minutes at a time. Therapy is where you make sense of your patterns and organize change. Change takes hold when you practice differently in real life. Join Dr. Kipenzi and Shanelle as we explore what it takes to move from understanding your patterns to changing how you show up.

    Book resources shared in this episode:

    O’Rourke, S. (2025). Unburdened: The reclamation theory: A liberation-focused clinical model for reclaiming identity, capacity, and voice. Independently published.

    Tawwab, N. G. (2021). Set boundaries, find peace: A guide to reclaiming yourself. TarcherPerigee.

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    34 min
  • Somebody Lied When... They Said Love Is Enough
    Oct 6 2026

    Love matters. But love by itself does not teach us how to communicate, repair hurt, manage conflict, create emotional safety, or navigate the parts of ourselves and our identities that we bring into a relationship.


    In this episode of Somebody Lied When..., Dr. Kipenzi Herron and Shanelle D. Johnson challenge one of our most persistent relationship myths: if two people really love each other, they should be able to make the relationship work.


    We talk about couples who genuinely love each other and still hurt each other, why good intentions do not automatically create healthy relationships, and the skills that help love survive stress, disappointment, difference, and change.


    We also get into compatibility, communication, boundaries, repair, and what it means to love someone in a way that makes room for who they actually are, including the identities and lived experiences that shape how they move through the world.


    Because sometimes the problem isn’t a lack of love.

    Sometimes there is plenty of love. What’s missing is what love needs in order to work.


    Real Conversations. Real Life.


    Hosted by Dr. Kipenzi Herron & Shanelle D. Johnson


    New episodes every Tuesday.


    Connect with Somebody Lied When...
    Website: SomebodyLiedWhen.com
    YouTube: @SomebodyLiedWhen
    Instagram: @somebodyliedwhen

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    43 min
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