We talk to Isabel Gillies, a mother of two whose first husband fell in love with someone else, about whether marriage actually prevents couples from breaking up. She shares her theory that everyone has multiple soulmates over the course of a lifetime, and you are going to meet some of them after you get married. At the end of the episode, Maxson and Emily get real: what's our actual game plan if one of us starts developing feelings for someone else?

We ask Deb, a trauma nurse, if it's true that you can be blocked from entering the emergency room to visit your partner if you aren't legally married. We also talk about who gets decision-making priority if you are on life support. She tells us a heart wrenching story from her early days in the ER that prompted her to reverse her take on marriage with her then-boyfriend, and they went that same week to get a domestic partnership, and then later, get legally married.

We talk to Esme, a 12-year-old, and her dad PF, about their unusual family structure. Esme’s parents were never legally married, so we get to ask her: what was that like? Did you feel like your parents were more likely to break up? Any issues while traveling? And are you, Esme, interested in getting married yourself one day? And much more.

Maxson and Emily are four years into dating, and our love is the real deal — we want to have kids and a family together. But getting legally married? That’s not as obvious to us, so we’re making a podcast where we figure it out with friends, family, experts, and ultimately, each other.