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  • A Winery Built to Create Jobs for Adults With Disabilities | Episode 253: Tyler & Kelly Mullman
    Oct 13 2026

    Episode 253

    What happens when you take a love for wine and pair it with a much bigger purpose? Tyler and Kelly Mullman were my neighbors in Tulsa, and today they own Cana Ranch Wines, a nonprofit winery built around meaningful work for adults with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

    A friend asked Tyler what he knew about running a nonprofit or making wine. Not much. So he enrolled in the UC Davis online winemaking program, and they volunteered at Belong Kitchen in Houston to learn how a nonprofit runs. We talk about the name, the first vintage (a 2024 Napa Valley Cabernet, 165 cases), how every $200 donation returns a bottle and funds their two partner programs, the Houston release party on November 13, and the vision of a Napa vineyard with a job for adults with disabilities at every level. Tyler's advice: you are smarter than you think you are. Keep trying, keep figuring it out.

    Find Cana Ranch Wines at canaranch.org (Instagram, Facebook and LinkedIn: canaranchwines).

    Today's sponsor: Synergy Benefit Advisors (tulsasynergy.com).
    Join our free online community: skool.com/sharingpassionandpurpose

    Chapters:
    0:00 Coming up
    0:36 Sharing Passion and Purpose
    0:54 Welcome: meet Tyler and Kelly Mullman
    3:08 The question they asked during COVID
    4:40 Why open a winery?
    6:06 What do you know about running a nonprofit or making wine?
    7:04 Volunteering at Belong Kitchen to learn how a nonprofit runs
    9:12 Parents, adult children, and a massive unmet need
    12:48 What is in the name Cana Ranch
    15:34 A word from our sponsor
    16:44 Where the business is today: the first vintage
    19:15 How community has carried them
    21:37 The easy part is making the wine. The hard part is selling it
    22:05 How to get involved: a bottle for every $200 donation
    24:45 The pie in the sky: a Napa vineyard that employs adults with IDD
    27:27 Rapid fire
    32:16 A question from the last guest: solve one problem forever
    34:54 It can be scary. Start small. You are smarter than you think
    36:16 Sharing Passion and Purpose outro

    ABOUT NANCY
    Nancy Moore is the host of Sharing Passion and Purpose, a weekly podcast offering career and creative inspiration to help you build a purpose-filled life. Pursuing a career with passion, tapping into your creative potential, and building on your best resource: yourself.

    ABOUT TYLER & KELLY MULLMAN
    Tyler and Kelly Mullman are the founders of Cana Ranch Wines, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit winery built to make great wine and do good: their 2024 Napa Valley Cabernet funds jobs and job training for adults with intellectual and developmental disabilities, on the way to a Napa vineyard and winery of their own. Tyler learned winemaking through the UC Davis online program; Kelly is a physician assistant. They live in Houston with their three children.
    Website: https://www.canaranch.org
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/canaranchwines/
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CanaRanchWines/
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cana-ranch-wines/

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    37 min
  • Anyone Can Cross the Finish Line | Episode 252: Destiny Green
    Oct 6 2026

    Episode 252


    Destiny Green is the executive director of the Williams Route 66 Marathon and the historic Tulsa Run, and her path there started in IT. Today she shares how she grew from the race founder's right hand into leading it all, and why this job lets her have a small part in helping people do things they never thought they could do. She has seen engagements at the finish line and has even married couples at the start line.


    We talk about how truly anyone can take part: walk a mile, walk a 5K, volunteer (it takes about 1,200 volunteers to make race weekend happen), or just get up off the couch and call a girlfriend for a walk after dinner. And I loved hearing about Kicks for Kids, the program that coaches and mentors elementary kids in Title I schools, teaching nutrition, confidence, and life lessons, where every kid who shows up earns a race entry, a medal, and a brand-new pair of running shoes. Some of them have never had a new pair of shoes before. It started with 4 schools and is in 18 now.


    Connect with Destiny and the races at route66marathon.com and tulsarun.com, and follow her new adventure with her best friend Megan on Instagram at Girls Behind the Bib. The TTCU Tulsa Run is Saturday, October 31, and the Williams Route 66 Marathon is November 21 and 22.


    Today's sponsor: Synergy Benefit Advisors (tulsasynergy.com).

    Join our free online community: skool.com/sharingpassionandpurpose


    Chapters:

    0:00 Coming up

    0:45 Sharing Passion and Purpose

    1:02 Meet Destiny Green

    1:32 From IT to running the show

    3:01 49 years of the Tulsa Run

    3:35 The Route 66 centennial

    5:33 Something for everyone: walk, run, volunteer

    7:28 Couch to one mile: just get up

    9:56 A word from Synergy Benefit Advisors

    11:08 Kicks for Kids

    13:23 "Some of these kids have never had new shoes"

    14:26 Coaching: "you just have to show up"

    16:13 Her own running + the directors' run

    17:23 Married couples at the start line

    18:13 The running community that carries you

    20:12 Rapid fire

    21:01 "I Can Do It With a Broken Heart"

    21:46 Know your resources

    25:21 Girls Behind the Bib + finding the races

    26:31 Until next time


    ABOUT NANCY

    Nancy Moore is the host of Sharing Passion and Purpose, a weekly podcast offering career and creative inspiration to help you build a purpose-filled life. Pursuing a career with passion, tapping into your creative potential, and building on your best resource: yourself.


    ABOUT DESTINY GREEN

    Destiny Green is the executive director of the Williams Route 66 Marathon and the Tulsa Run, Tulsa's most iconic road races. She grew into the role from a career in IT, working alongside the race's founder, and has led the organization for the better part of a decade. In 2019 she launched Kicks for Kids, a running, mentorship, and nutrition program in Tulsa-area Title I elementary schools where every participating child earns a race entry and a brand-new pair of running shoes, now in 18 schools.

    Website: https://www.route66marathon.com

    Tulsa Run: https://www.tulsarun.com


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    27 min
  • The Empty Closet Theory: Why There's Never Room for What Matters | Episode 251: Susan McMurray
    Sep 29 2026

    Episode 251

    Susan McMurray spent 30 years in a classroom pouring into other people. This past summer she made something of her own: Kindred & Bloom, a magazine-style devotional for women with contributor articles in the front and a five-week devotional in the back, built to be an excuse to gather.

    We talk about the magazine she loved that stopped publishing, how the first issue's theme, Abide, came out of a class at her church, the women she asked to write for it, and Create and Connect, the fifth week where you put the reading down and make something with your hands.

    Susan names the thing under all of it: she read that over half of Americans feel unseen. Then she asks about the empty closet. If there is an empty closet in the house, we fill it with crud, and our schedules work the same way. The fix is margin, on purpose. And she is honest about starting: it was scary to take on something that was just hers, she got up at one in the morning to work on it, and her best advice is one line. Do not despise small beginnings.

    Meet Susan in person: she and Michelle Bruns of Pinspiration join Nancy for a live podcast in Tulsa on November 10, 6:30 to 8:30 pm, craft and magazine included. Tickets at nancymoore.co/events.

    The magazine: kindredandbloom.co (Kindred & Bloom Co. on Instagram and Facebook).

    Today's sponsor: Synergy Benefit Advisors (tulsasynergy.com).
    Join our free online community: skool.com/sharingpassionandpurpose

    Chapters:
    0:00 Coming up
    0:36 Sharing Passion and Purpose
    0:53 Welcome: meet Susan McMurray
    1:45 The magazine she loved that stopped publishing
    2:56 One step further: a five-week devotional in the back
    3:51 Create and Connect: doing something with your hands
    5:20 How the theme Abide came to be
    7:32 Family, hospitality, and community in every season
    8:27 Permission to slow down
    9:31 Is it surreal to have published a magazine?
    9:47 Finding your drivers: writing, beautifying, connecting
    11:07 Volume one: four issues, four seasons
    12:46 November 10 in Tulsa: a live podcast for two
    14:48 Where to find Kindred and Bloom
    15:53 A keepsake worth gifting
    16:20 Over half of Americans feel unseen
    16:38 The empty closet theory, and making margin
    18:08 A word from our sponsor
    19:27 Trusting an idea God puts in your heart
    21:00 Up at 1am, working on the magazine
    22:54 Rapid fire
    23:31 A theme song for this season
    24:21 Best advice: do not despise small beginnings
    25:12 One book every entrepreneur should read
    26:38 A dream not pursued yet: Kindred and Bloom retreats
    28:09 What following your passion means
    28:56 A question from the last guest: which season are you?
    29:59 Thank you, and the inner circle
    30:43 Until next time
    31:10 Sharing Passion and Purpose outro

    ABOUT NANCY
    Nancy Moore is the host of Sharing Passion and Purpose, a weekly podcast offering career and creative inspiration to help you build a purpose-filled life. Pursuing a career with passion, tapping into your creative potential, and building on your best resource: yourself.

    ABOUT SUSAN MCMURRAY
    Susan McMurray is the founder and publisher of Kindred & Bloom Co., a seasonal magazine-style devotional for women whose first issue, Abide, pairs contributor articles with a five-week devotional made for gathering with a few friends. She has taught communication at Oral Roberts University for 30 years and built the magazine over one summer off from teaching.

    CONNECT & GO DEEPER
    Join Nancy's free community: https://www.skool.com/sharingpassionandpurpose
    Podcast website: https://sharingpassionandpurpose.com
    Work with Nancy: https://nancymoore.co

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    32 min
  • Protecting What Matters Most | Episode 250: Sara Gadd
    Sep 22 2026

    Episode 250

    What does it take to protect what matters most? Sara Gadd leads the Human Trafficking Education and Response Program at Ascension St. John in Tulsa and chairs the Oklahoma Coalition Against Human Trafficking, and her message is a hopeful one: knowledge reduces vulnerability, relationships matter more than rules, and everything we do makes a difference.

    We talk about how a kid who volunteered in Southern California grew into this work one step at a time, the three kinds of parents she sees and why the healthiest place is in the middle, staying close to your kids' world, and being the trusted adult a young person can come to even after a mistake. Awareness works better than fear, and a calm, informed adult changes the outcome.

    How to help: the Oklahoma Coalition Against Human Trafficking (ocatoklahoma.org). If you are ever worried about someone's safety, do not step in on your own. Call the National Human Trafficking Hotline at 1-888-373-7888 (text 233733) or law enforcement. Anyone who needs help can walk into any Ascension St. John hospital or clinic, or the Family Safety Center.

    Today's sponsor: Five Star Painting of Tulsa (fivestarpainting.com/tulsa).
    Join our free online community: skool.com/sharingpassionandpurpose

    Chapters:
    0:00 Coming up
    0:30 Sharing Passion and Purpose
    0:47 Welcome: meet Sara Gadd
    2:26 A calling that built one step at a time
    4:36 A young law and what we are still learning
    5:20 What most of us picture, and what is real
    7:15 Why young people are always protected
    7:34 A book for teens: knowledge reduces vulnerability
    10:01 What to notice: context over checklists
    12:42 Why awareness is for everyone
    14:28 Technology: a good tool that needs guidance
    17:03 Privacy, sharing, and staying in your kids' world
    19:13 A word from our sponsor
    20:07 Practical steps for parents: finding the middle
    22:41 Be the adult they can come to
    25:13 How the community can help: the Oklahoma Coalition
    28:55 Everything we do makes a difference
    31:43 One more thing: help safely
    32:24 Until next time
    32:35 Sharing Passion and Purpose outro

    ABOUT NANCY
    Nancy Moore is the host of Sharing Passion and Purpose, a weekly podcast offering career and creative inspiration to help you build a purpose-filled life. Pursuing a career with passion, tapping into your creative potential, and building on your best resource: yourself.

    ABOUT SARA GADD
    Sara Gadd manages the Human Trafficking Education and Response Program at Ascension St. John in Tulsa, training healthcare professionals to recognize trafficking and connecting survivors with resources. She chairs the Oklahoma Coalition Against Human Trafficking, is the author of a trafficking-prevention book for teens, and was named one of TulsaKids Magazine's Impactful Women of the 918 for 2026.

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    33 min
  • The Hard Yes Nobody Warns You About | Episode 249: Shelby Gardner
    Sep 15 2026

    Episode 249

    Shelby Gardner is an author, speaker, entrepreneur, and mom of two spitfire daughters, and one of the most refreshingly honest guests I have had. A year ago she stepped away from a ministry position she loved because she felt God asking her to, expecting life to take off the very next week. It did not. We talk about what that brutal, transformative year has really looked like: watching her old community from the outside, discovering how much of her self-worth was tied to a title, and learning that obedience does not come with a guarantee that "better" looks the way you pictured it.

    Shelby wrote the devotional Lily Pads: A Heart Study, and I love the picture behind the name. Every season of life is just another lily pad. Not a step up, not a step down; another place to sit, learn, and grow. We talk about why your story is not for you, the Rahab novel she is working on, sharing the hard days of motherhood honestly, and her family's core value that stuck with me most: "We do things scared."

    Connect with Shelby at shelbygardner.com, where her weekly blog lives along with links to the book. Lily Pads: A Heart Study is on Amazon.

    Today's sponsor: Five Star Painting of Tulsa (fivestarpainting.com/tulsa).
    Join our free online community: skool.com/sharingpassionandpurpose

    Chapters:
    0:00 Coming up
    0:36 Sharing Passion and Purpose
    0:53 Meet Shelby: author, mom, in-between season
    3:21 Leaving ministry: the hardest decision
    4:46 "I thought my life was gonna take off"
    7:41 Obedience without a guarantee
    9:44 A word from our sponsor
    10:38 Why a devotional
    13:10 The lily-pads picture: seasons, not steps
    15:48 Your story is not for you
    18:00 The Rahab novel
    20:10 Sharing the hard days of motherhood
    23:36 Rapid fire
    25:08 Reba and the wooden spoon
    27:46 The greenhouse storytelling studio
    29:13 "We do things scared"
    30:33 The hard yes that changed everything
    32:33 Where to find Shelby + Lily Pads
    33:27 Until next time

    ABOUT NANCY
    Nancy Moore is the host of Sharing Passion and Purpose, a weekly podcast offering career and creative inspiration to help you build a purpose-filled life. Pursuing a career with passion, tapping into your creative potential, and building on your best resource: yourself.

    ABOUT SHELBY GARDNER
    Shelby Gardner is an author, speaker, and entrepreneur. After seven years in ministry, she stepped away to pursue what God had next, a season she writes about with rare honesty. She is the author of the devotional Lily Pads: A Heart Study (available on Amazon), writes a weekly blog at shelbygardner.com, helps run her husband's real estate brokerage in Sapulpa, and is raising two daughters under the family motto "we do things scared."
    Website: https://shelbygardner.com

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    34 min
  • Purpose Can Be Ordinary | Episode 248: Dr. Jessica Rimmer
    Sep 8 2026

    Episode 248

    Dr. Jessica Rimmer is the CEO of Solomon Strategic Advisors, an executive coach, a keynote speaker, and the author of The Purpose Formula: Learn to be Fully Alive. She is also the co-director of 4word OKC, the faith and work community for women in Oklahoma City that I have come to love, and where I get to speak on September 8.

    We talk about purpose anxiety, that question so many of us carry around: why am I here, and does it even matter? Jessica walks through the three elements of her purpose formula, design, desires, and disappointments, and why comparing yourself to other women turns design features into design flaws. She explains the Japanese repair art of kintsugi and how the hardest seasons of our lives become the strongest, most useful parts of our purpose. She answers my most asked question, what is the first step for a woman who has no idea what her purpose is, and she tells the story of a stranger at a snowy-day event whose life changed when he heard that purpose can be ordinary.

    We also talk about whether your purpose changes over time, how Jana Gridley built 4word OKC to 130 women a month, and a rapid fire with a dream Jessica just took the first step toward.

    Find Jessica at solomonsa.com and on Instagram at @jlrimmer. Her book, The Purpose Formula: Learn to be Fully Alive, is available now.

    If you are in Oklahoma City, come to the 4word OKC luncheon on Tuesday, September 8, where I will be the guest speaker. Details and tickets: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/1995973831460

    Today's sponsor: Five Star Painting of Tulsa (fivestarpainting.com/tulsa).
    Join our free online community: skool.com/sharingpassionandpurpose

    Chapters:
    0:00 Coming up
    0:31 Sharing Passion and Purpose
    0:48 Welcome: meet Dr. Jessica Rimmer
    2:32 4word OKC and the September 8 luncheon
    2:58 Why she wrote The Purpose Formula
    4:51 Design, desires, and disappointments
    6:27 Design flaws or design features?
    6:57 Desires and participatory joy
    7:47 Disappointments and kintsugi
    9:18 The first step to finding your purpose
    11:20 Autopilot, routine, and disrupting it
    13:17 What alignment with your assignment feels like
    14:52 A stranger's LinkedIn post: purpose can be ordinary
    17:55 A word from our sponsor
    18:49 Does your purpose change over time?
    20:34 4word OKC: the group Jana Gridley needed
    24:53 Rapid fire
    28:10 If you were a season
    29:20 To be continued
    29:49 Until next time

    ABOUT NANCY
    Nancy Moore is the host of Sharing Passion and Purpose, a weekly podcast offering career and creative inspiration to help you build a purpose-filled life. Pursuing a career with passion, tapping into your creative potential, and building on your best resource: yourself.

    ABOUT DR. JESSICA RIMMER
    Dr. Jessica Rimmer is the CEO of Solomon Strategic Advisors, an executive coach and keynote speaker. She holds a doctorate from the University of Oklahoma and is the author of The Purpose Formula: Learn to be Fully Alive. She co-directs 4word OKC, a faith and work community of women in Oklahoma City, alongside its founder Jana Gridley.
    Website: https://solomonsa.com
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jlrimmer
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessica-rimmer-ph-d-916b4354

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    30 min
  • Your Pursuit Is Your Purpose | Episode 247: Miss USA Olivia Jordan
    Sep 1 2026

    Episode 247

    Olivia Jordan is the first and only woman from Oklahoma ever crowned Miss USA, and she has built an acting career across NCIS, Hawaii Five-0, Dollface and a run of Lifetime leads. She is also one of the most honest guests I have had about what pursuing a dream actually looks like. She set out 15 years ago wanting to be a series regular on a TV show. That has not happened yet. She is still going, and she can tell you exactly why.

    We talk about how she checks in with herself when the outside voices get loud, why the growth she can measure year over year is the real reward, and what it takes to stop living on someone else's timeline. She tells the small world story of how she found her way into Cody Mayo Studios here in Tulsa, which started with one of my own articles in a dentist's waiting room. She talks about her medallion on the Circle Cinema Walk of Fame, the place she calls the heart of Oklahoma film. And she shares how she is raising her daughter Lola with room for big feelings, using meditation and affirmations they have practiced since Lola was an infant, plus a reminder every mom needs about giving herself grace.

    Olivia is writing her first TEDx talk, "Your Pursuit Is Your Purpose," and the idea in it stayed with me all week. You are already doing what you are supposed to be doing, just by getting up every morning and moving forward. It is okay if you have not reached the dream job yet. You are moving.

    Follow Olivia on Instagram at @theoliviajordan. Her TEDx talk is Friday, September 18 at Riverfield Country Day School, the same day as my Gather and Grow Retreat at Five Oaks Lodge in Jenks. Details at nancymoore.co/events.

    Today's sponsor: Five Star Painting of Tulsa (fivestarpainting.com/tulsa).
    Join our free online community: skool.com/sharingpassionandpurpose

    Chapters:
    0:00 Coming up
    0:30 Sharing Passion and Purpose
    0:47 Welcome: meet Olivia Jordan
    2:00 How do you know what you are called to pursue?
    3:08 Fifteen years in: the honest math
    5:35 Coaching actors, and watching them unfold
    8:25 Your voice matters, even when it triggers people
    10:39 Acting in Oklahoma: Cody Mayo Studios
    13:16 The magazine in the dentist's waiting room
    14:04 Becoming a coach was never the plan
    15:58 A word from our sponsor
    17:12 A medallion on the Circle Cinema Walk of Fame
    20:24 Raising Lola with room for big feelings
    22:50 Meditation and affirmations at four
    24:39 Every mom deserves more grace
    25:49 What she is passionate about right now
    26:51 Taking your power back
    29:54 Your Pursuit Is Your Purpose
    31:33 Until next time

    ABOUT NANCY
    Nancy Moore is the host of Sharing Passion and Purpose, a weekly podcast offering career and creative inspiration to help you build a purpose-filled life. Pursuing a career with passion, tapping into your creative potential, and building on your best resource: yourself.

    ABOUT OLIVIA JORDAN
    Olivia Jordan is an actress, model, speaker and acting coach, and the first and only woman from Oklahoma to be crowned Miss USA. The Tulsa native won Miss USA 2015 and finished second runner-up at Miss Universe. She now coaches actors at Cody Mayo Studios in Tulsa, joined the Circle Cinema Walk of Fame in 2026, and is preparing her first TEDx talk, "Your Pursuit Is Your Purpose." She lives in Tulsa with her husband and their daughter, Lola.
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theoliviajordan

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    32 min
  • From Babysitters to Restaurants — Episode 246: Adrienne Kallweit
    Aug 25 2026

    Episode 246

    Friends, this one is special. Adrienne Kallweit is somebody I've looked up to for almost twenty years — she and her husband David built SeekingSitters into a national franchise, and when COVID put that business on life support, they went back to their construction roots and started over. Today their whole family works together in the Woodfire restaurant family — Nineteen0Eight, Palace Rooms, and Lollipops — from Bartlesville to the beautifully renovated old Goldie's building at 51st and Lewis here in Tulsa.

    We talk about being married to your business partner (and why they're "trouble together"), how she can tell when a concept is going to be a hit, why every business needs systems, building a company you could sell so it never traps you, and how she hires people who fit. Plus a brand-new rapid fire — and a big announcement about the book she's been writing.

    Find Adrienne and all of the restaurants at woodfire.food — and if you visit, tell them Nancy sent you.

    Today's sponsors: Five Star Painting of Tulsa (fivestarpainting.com/tulsa) and World Travel Service (worldtraveltoday.com).

    Chapters:
    0:00 Coming up
    0:36 Sharing Passion & Purpose
    0:53 Welcome: a new in-person season
    1:24 SeekingSitters, COVID, and the construction pivot
    3:58 Bartlesville and the accidental restaurants
    8:12 Married to your business partner
    12:53 Reading the consumer: 20 years of lessons
    16:32 A word from our sponsors
    17:26 The restaurant playbook: grow, build, sell
    26:14 Sponsor: World Travel Service
    27:29 Hiring people who fit
    32:04 Rapid fire, a book on the way, and woodfire.food
    40:09 Until next time

    ABOUT NANCY
    Nancy Moore is the host of Sharing Passion and Purpose, a weekly podcast offering career and creative inspiration to help you build a purpose-filled life — pursuing a career with passion, tapping into your creative potential, and building on your best resource: yourself.

    ABOUT ADRIENNE KALLWEIT
    Adrienne Kallweit is a Tulsa entrepreneur who co-founded SeekingSitters, a national babysitting-service franchise, and now leads the Woodfire restaurant family — Nineteen0Eight, Palace Rooms, and Lollipops — together with her husband David and their family, from Bartlesville to the renovated Goldie's building in Tulsa. Find the restaurants at woodfire.food.

    CONNECT & GO DEEPER
    Join Nancy's free community: https://www.skool.com/sharingpassionandpurpose
    Podcast website: https://sharingpassionandpurpose.com
    Work with Nancy: https://nancymoore.co

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    41 min