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  • Don’t Trust Your Ears! Head, Heart, and Hands Listening with Kymberly Dakin-Neal (EP178)
    Oct 20 2025
    Subscribe: Spotify | TuneIn | RSS Kymberly Dakin-Neal is a certified mindset coach, playback practitioner, and founder of Voice into Learning, LLC. Her specialty is team experience design, incorporating individual coaching programs and applied mediums such as improvisation, intentional listening, and focused creativity. Her book, “Head Heart & Hands Listening in Coach Practice,” is an essential book for coaches, teachers, salespeople, parents, and, actually, anybody who listens for a living. Through Kym’s work and book, she demonstrates why listening is what the world needs more of. I met Kym at the International Listening Association Convention at the University of Maryland in August where we had a picture of us taken in the Listening Garden. Your WHY As an introvert in an extroverted culture, I’ve always been curious about group dynamics and how listening is a strong, if underappreciated, superpower that introverts possess. They are often the ones who have valuable insights and ask powerful questions. Introverts often (not always) have highly refined listening skills. Your Background and Overview I do training based on my book, and I work with clients who are struggling with transitions, change, and interpersonal issues. I was a founding member of Portland Playback Theatre and won an international Audie award for book narration. I recorded audiobooks for the BBC, Brilliance Audio, and Audible. I taught at Bowdoin College, the University of Southern Maine, the University of New Hampshire, and the University of New England. I currently train physicians in productive listening and patient communication at Tufts/MaineHealth and Kaiser Permanente in the Washington, DC area. Voice into Learning, LLC I do a fair amount of public speaking coaching, particularly with those who are transitioning into positions of greater visibility. Particularly for introverts, stepping into the spotlight can be challenging. As an introvert myself, I can help clients avoid the mental pitfalls of imposter syndrome and anxiety. The Positive Intelligence model is particularly effective in this kind of work. Your mind can be your best friend or worst enemy. Most negative emotions and stress come from self-sabotage. The Positive Intelligence PQ® program offers proven tools to strengthen mental resilience and quiet internal saboteurs. This leads to a more positive mindset, greater resilience, and reduced stress, known as mental fitness. I cannot recommend Kymberly enough! Once regarded with dread, my upcoming talk to an audience of 2500 should be a breeze. Kymberly meets you where you are, not engaging in cookie-cutter solutions.I feel that I have been equipped by a “magical helper” to embark upon my own Hero’s Journey. Five stars, at least! ~ Jonathan Fisher Writer & Director of PBS Documentary on NYC Probation “In a Whole New Way” The Training Game Shift/POV I developed the training game Shift/POV: From Conflict to Collaboration in One Hour through the Top Gun incubator program and created a bookmarking app called Nugget to eliminate the need for note-taking in online meetings. URL to video:https://youtu.be/W2pU31j63_k?si=m_zq3hnDmiLd44VB Bookmarking App “Nugget” During the shutdown, when all of my in-person work evaporated, I was facilitating online meetings and noticed challenges. Challenges of trying to get participants engaged while taking notes, or coursing through videos to highlight the important points I wanted to share. “Nugget” lets users highlight the important things in real-time at the touch of a button and allows them to share those notes with the team. We sold Nugget in 2023 for a nice price! Why is deep listening at the core of coaching? How do we build trust? Listening is how we grasp another person’s story and build bridges to our own. It’s how we create relationships and build trust across differences in skillset, experience, background, race, age and gender. Effective listening gives us information beyond the actual words – once we know how to slow ourselves down long enough to pay attention to it. When we feel deeply heard, something in us relaxes enough to feel that we just might be able to trust this person. That is how trusting, positive relationships are built. Book, “Head, Heart & Hands Listening in Coach Practice” My book, Head Heart & Hands Listening in Coach Practice, is an exploration of intentional listening as an essential skill for coaches. It introduces the Head, Heart, and Hands (3H) Listening model as a vital tool to amplify effective listening in coaching practice. This is essential reading for coaches in practice and in training, as well as organizational psychologists, HR professionals, salespeople, and those working within corporations. Head, Heart, and Hands Listening in Coach Practice is about how we listen, what we listen for, why it matters, and how to do it better. The 3H model provided in these pages is quickly...
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    51 min
  • Sparking Curiosity, Building Confidence, and Moving PD Into Action with Olivia Odileke (EP185)
    Jul 7 2026
    Subscribe: Spotify | TuneIn | RSS Olivia Odileke is the founder of Kampus Insights Inc. and the creator of Lead Spark Team, a platform designed to help schools move professional development beyond inspiration and into measurable instructional change. Olivia also created the Spark Curiosity AI Coach, which helps educators spark student curiosity through short, inquiry-based learning experiences at the beginning of a unit. Your WHY My why is simple, but it runs deep: I want every student, teacher, and leader to love to wonder again. I want them to fall in love with growing their mind, discovering their potential, and nurturing the natural gifts already inside of them. Education has always been more than content delivery to me. At its best, learning should awaken something in us. It should invite students, teachers, and leaders to wonder, question, grow, and see new possibilities in themselves. That is the heart of my work. I believe curiosity is one of the most powerful things we can protect in education. When students are curious, they lean in. When teachers are curious, they become designers of learning instead of simply deliverers of content. And when leaders are curious, they create the conditions for people to grow. Through Kampus Insights CC, Lead Spark Team, the Spark Curiosity AI Coach, Spark Curiosity EDU, and Fearless Educator Radio, my work centers on one big idea: helping educators move from inspiration to action, and from action to meaningful instructional change. What challenged you to start Kampus Insights? What were the problems you saw that you knew you could make a difference? I started Kampus Insights CC because I kept seeing the same disconnect in schools. Teachers were attending professional development, getting inspired for the day, but then returning to classrooms where the actual shift in practice was hard to sustain. I understood that because I was a teacher. I worked in Title I schools for many years. I know what it feels like to care deeply about students while also feeling overwhelmed by pacing guides, testing pressure, behavior challenges, and the daily responsibility of trying to meet every learner’s needs. The problem I saw was that teachers did not need more information thrown at them. They needed practical tools, meaningful support, and small instructional shifts they could actually use. They needed professional development that did more than motivate them for a moment. They needed support that helped them change what happens in the classroom. That is what challenged me to build Kampus Insights and eventually Lead Spark Team. I wanted to help schools move beyond, “That was a great workshop,” into, “We can actually see this changing teacher practice and student engagement.” Lead Spark Team was created to help schools turn professional development into measurable instructional change. It gives leaders and teachers a way to focus on a specific instructional practice, reflect on implementation, gather evidence of growth, and build momentum over time.You can learn more about Kampus Insights here: https://kampusinsights.com Being curious is all about wonder and magic. How do you spark curiosity? I spark curiosity by helping teachers create moments where students get to wonder before they are told what to know. A lot of times in education, we start with the answer. We introduce the vocabulary, explain the concept, model the process, and then ask students to respond. But curiosity often happens before the explanation. It happens when students notice something, question something, make a prediction, compare ideas, or realize there is a gap between what they know and what they want to understand. That is where Micro Inquiry comes in. A Micro Inquiry Task is a short learning experience that gives students something to observe, discuss, sort, compare, predict, or figure out before the lesson begins. The teacher then uses guiding questions to help students make meaning together. It is like lighting a small spark before building the fire. The goal is not to teach the entire lesson in that moment. The goal is to create the reason students want to learn the lesson. To support teachers in creating these moments more easily, I created the Spark Curiosity AI Coach. The coach helps educators design short, curiosity-based learning experiences that can be used at the beginning of a unit or around challenging concepts. You can explore the Spark Curiosity AI Coach here:https://ai.sparkcuriosityedu.com What does it look like when curiosity is sparked? What are some results and outcomes from this work? Some of the most meaningful outcomes from my work have come through the messages teachers send after they experience a Spark Curiosity session, use a Micro Inquiry Task, or try the Spark Curiosity AI Coach. I have had teachers share that they felt a difference in their classroom almost immediately. They noticed students talking more, wondering more, and participating in ways they ...
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    51 min
  • Building a Culture of Collaboration with Jamie Meola Saponaro (EP186)
    Aug 3 2026
    Subscribe: Spotify | TuneIn | RSS Jamie Saponaro is the Senior Director of Community and Professional Learning at ClassLink. She leads thought leader initiatives that bring educational communities together through summits, webinars, and professional learning events. Jamie is the host of LinkedUp: Breaking Boundaries in Education, a podcast dedicated to spotlighting boundary-breaking educators. She just launched her new book: Transforming Classrooms: Building a Culture of Collaboration. I just had to share a picture of Jamie and me at one of the high teas I mentioned in the podcast. I always ask my guests to share their WHY. What is your WHY? My father taught for 37 years – drafting, architectural drawing, woodshop, technology education, video production – and whenever anyone asked him what he taught, his answer was never that he taught any of those subjects – he always said ‘I teach students.’ That shaped everything about how I think about teaching. Are we teaching the ‘curriculum’? Or are we teaching the ‘students’? Students learn through instructional best practices that allow for differentiation. It is not about teaching the ‘stuff.’ It is about teaching and reaching individual learners. It is about building a community of students and the conditions for unique learning opportunities from not only their teacher, but also from each other. Can you share an overview of your background? A Jersey girl coming from a family of educators – my father was a teacher, my mother was a teacher, my husband was a teacher and is now a superintendent – education became my path as well, and I’ve been in it for over 35 years. I taught for a dozen years and then became a technology director. I went on maternity leave to start my family, and during that time, I wrote a book called Creative Projects Using Popular Computer Applications. Then, I founded my own company, InTECHgration, as an instructional strategist and technology integration specialist, providing professional learning for teachers and administrators through coaching, mentoring, and hands-on workshops rooted in research-based strategies and high engagement. I also volunteered as the president and executive board member of an education foundation for 10 years. Lead of ClassLink’s Thought Leader Initiatives The industry side of education came knocking, so I gradually took that on full-time and now lead ClassLink’s thought-leader initiatives that promote community building and professional learning for educational leaders through in-person and virtual summit events in pursuit of “linking leaders.” I am also the co-host of the podcast, “LinkedUp: Breaking Boundaries in Education,” and produce the podcast, “Perspectives: Finding Common Ground,” and additionally produce and host 3 webinar series. As for the rest of my family, my sister was the only one not in education, and my older daughter, Bella, followed in her footsteps in the fashion world. My other daughter, Lauren Rose, is an avionics product designer who is also my graphic designer for my second book, Transforming Classrooms: Building a Culture of Collaboration. What Your Book Shares with Teachers and How it Transforms Classrooms Most educators I have worked with have tried group work, and it failed every time. One student does all the work. Another disappears. A third turns it into a fight. The rest just wait for it to be over What I want teachers to know is that it is not a flaw in their abilities. It’s actually a design flaw. Group work fails because it was never designed to work. There is no structure requiring every voice, no accountability that reaches every student, no reflection that builds the skill for next time. Without those elements, we are not doing cooperative learning. We are just putting children in proximity and hoping for the best. Cooperative learning is different. It is a research-backed structure with 70 years of evidence showing it outperforms individual learning at a statistically significant rate — but only when all the components are present. When we implement it with fidelity, students do not just complete tasks together. They think together. They teach each other. They learn how to belong. Cooperative learning is different. It is a research-backed structure with 70 years of evidence showing it outperforms individual learning at a statistically significant rate — but only when all the components are present. When we implement it with fidelity, students do not just complete tasks together. They think together. They teach each other. They learn how to belong. That distinction is the entire foundation of my book Transforming Classrooms: Building a Culture of Collaboration. I have seen it work so beautifully for students and seen classrooms flourish because of it, so I wrote the book to share the tips and simple tweaks to turn group work into true cooperative learning. _________________ The ...
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    43 min
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