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What do gun safes, mental health, and leadership have in common? In this episode, Trevor sits down with Scott Carlson, owner of Utah Safe Company, to unpack an unexpected but powerful connection between personal responsibility, mental health, and modern business innovation.Scott shares how years of failure, industry resistance, and uncomfortable conversations led him to build a company that doesn’t just protect property—but helps protect lives. This episode dives into the tension between extremes, why progress happens in the middle ground, and what it looks like to modernize a legacy industry without selling out your values.This is a real conversation about failure, purpose, and doing the hard thing when it would be easier not to.

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In this episode of The Real Business Owners Podcast, Trevor Cowley sits down with Brody Fausett for a conversation about real estate, lifestyle design, and the realities most people never see behind “successful” deals.They break down Brody’s most profitable real estate deal, the unexpected chain of events that led him to move to Hawaii, and why chasing lifestyle alignment matters more than chasing headlines. The conversation also pulls back the curtain on long-term development projects, government red tape, delayed timelines, and why patience, trust, and resilience separate real operators from spectators.This episode isn’t about hype. It’s about what actually happens when you’re in the arena.

If you are ready to level up personally and professionally, go to joinrbo.comMost business owners don’t fail at the beginning — they quit in the middle.In this episode, Trevor Cowley breaks down what it actually looks like when a business hits the uncomfortable, frustrating phase between early momentum and real scale. He talks cash flow pressure, mental fatigue, bad marketing decisions, and why chasing long-term plays too early can quietly kill your business.This is a real-world conversation about survival, strategy, and making smart decisions when things feel tight — not motivational fluff.