Why do some teams bring out the best in people while others turn colleagues into competitors? The answer may lie in the way we structure power, status, and success.

On this episode of Passion Struck, I sit down with Dr. Nir Halevy, a Stanford professor who studies social influence, power, and human behavior, to explore his book, Level Up: Why Hierarchies Are Broken and How to Fix Them.

Drawing on decades of research and real-world examples from elite sports, healthcare, academia, and corporate America, Nir explains why hierarchy itself isn't necessarily the problem. The real issue is whether the systems we create encourage people to work together or push them to succeed at one another's expense.

We discuss:

• Why hierarchies persist: Why eliminating hierarchy is rarely practical, and how to distinguish structures that help teams function from those that create harm.
• The danger of forced rankings: How pitting employees against one another can encourage information hoarding, rivalry, and even sabotage.
• The psychology of social comparison: Why another person's success can change how we experience our own, even when nothing about our performance has changed.
• Dominance versus prestige: The difference between leading through intimidation and leading through competence, contribution, and respect.
• The three warning signs of a broken hierarchy: Excessive competition, injustice, and instability—and how they undermine trust and retention.
• Why fairness matters: How unfair outcomes, opaque procedures, and disrespectful treatment combine to make people feel powerless.
• What leaders can learn from improv: How active listening, psychological safety, empathy, and making your teammates look good can strengthen relationships.
• How to build healthier teams: Why leaders should create multiple ways for people to contribute and demonstrate their value, rather than tying worth to a single ranking.

Nir leaves us with one question every leader should consider: Does your hierarchy bring people closer together or pull them apart? Because the goal isn't to eliminate structure. It's to build systems in which people can succeed without making others feel like they have to lose.

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What if the voice you use to motivate yourself is the very voice keeping you stuck?

You push harder after a mistake. You judge yourself for falling short. You tell yourself that if you were more disciplined, more successful, or simply better, you would finally feel worthy. But what if being hard on yourself isn't making you stronger? What if it’s making it harder to recover, grow, and move forward?

According to today’s guest, self-compassion isn’t self-pity or letting yourself off the hook. It’s learning how to respond to difficulty without turning against yourself.

Dr. Kristin Neff is a pioneering researcher in self-compassion and the creator of the Self-Compassion Institute. In this conversation, she explains why so many of us tie our worth to achievement, how our inner critic can intensify shame and disconnection, and how self-compassion can help us respond to life's challenges with greater clarity and care.

In this conversation, you’ll learn:

• Why being hard on yourself doesn't necessarily make you more motivated or successful.
• The difference between self-esteem, which evaluates your worth, and self-compassion, which responds to your humanity.
• How achievement, appearance, status, and external approval become measures of worth.
• Why shame, loneliness, burnout, and emotional numbness can be connected to a deeper sense of disconnection.
• How self-compassion creates space between what you feel and how you choose to respond.
• Why compassion can help you recognize your needs, set boundaries, and act with greater intention.
• How parents can model self-compassion for children without turning it into another expectation.
• A simple practice for responding to difficult moments with warmth instead of self-judgment.

Kristin shares a powerful phrase to return to when you’re struggling: “I will not abandon you. I am here for you. I care.”

You don’t have to earn the right to treat yourself with compassion. You can begin in the very moment you feel you’ve fallen short.

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Support the Movement: https://startmattering.com/. Every human deserves to feel seen, valued, and like they matter. Wear it. Live it. Show it.

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