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Not All Business

Not All Business

Di: Blakely Graham + Heather Cooper
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Because at work, it's not all business. We're Heather Cooper & Blakely Graham, two rival tech CEOs turned friends, hosting real conversations about the messy reality of leadership. Think of us as Sex Ed for Leadership—discussing the topics and answering all the questions professionals are too afraid to ask, with occasional reality checks from our brilliant producer, Clay. Join us for serious insights. Slightly less serious hosts. New episodes every week!Blakely Graham + Heather Cooper Economia
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  • How Do You Show Up at Work When the News Hits Home?

    How Do You Show Up at Work When the News Hits Home?
    Oct 15 2026
    You still have meetings. You still have deadlines. But a story in the news has hit close to home, and you're carrying it through all of them.Heather, Blakely, and Clay have an honest, sometimes uncomfortable conversation about the heaviness women bring into work after reading the headlines. They discuss the Cornell sexual assault allegations, the Lindsay Clancy case, and the shame, fear, and stereotypes these conversations can stir up.Heather shares a frightening experience from college. Blakely reflects on parenting college-age kids and learning more about postpartum mental health. Together, they ask what support actually sounds like, how to challenge a biased comment, and where personal responsibility meets the need for better systems.There's also a debate about return-to-office mandates, childcare, and mentoring, plus Hot Pockets, planking, and a closing reminder from Sheryl Lee Ralph to stop shrinking yourself.Content note. Discussion of sexual assault, alcohol poisoning, the deaths of children, and postpartum mental illness.Key Takeaways:Listen before trying to make someone feel better.Notice what your feed keeps serving you.Challenge stereotypes when they enter the conversation.Judge coworkers as individuals, not headlines.Support working parents with flexibility and childcare.Make room for hard conversations and hope.Please consider sharing this episode and subscribing to the show for more of the career questions women want answered but rarely ask out loud.Follow Our Hosts:Blakely: https://www.instagram.com/blakelygraham/ Heather: https://www.instagram.com/heathercooper.nab/ Clay: https://www.instagram.com/claycarnill/ Follow Not All Business:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/notallbiz/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/notallbusiness/ Substack: https://notallbusiness.substack.com/ Links & Mentions:Postpartum mental health resources: https://postpartum.net/get-help/postpartum-psychosis-help/ Instagram recommendations reset: https://about.fb.com/news/2024/11/introducing-recommendations-reset-instagram/ Megyn Kelly responding to Olivia Rodrigo: https://www.instagram.com/p/DeH4XCjx2Ts/ Sheryl Lee Ralph on refusing to shrink yourself: https://www.instagram.com/p/DePGr9AqNJh/ Amanda Litman on return-to-office mandates: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8qt3u_Dx11k Maya Angelou’s dinner-party story, discussed with Oprah: https://amarachic.wordpress.com/2018/03/24/wise-conversations-between-oprah-and-maya-angelou/ Dr. Julia Riddle on postpartum mental health, a related interview: https://www.kwbu.org/2026-08-31/postpartum-mental-health-needs-a-village Submit Your Sticky Situations:Got a sticky situation for Not All Business? Send an email or voice recording to sticky@notallbusiness.com or drop your question in the comments.Thank You to Our Sponsors:A Bag Concept: Versatile, machine-washable bags designed with an architect’s eye for women who do it all: https://abagconcept.com/ - code NotAllBusiness20 for 20% off your first order: https://abagconcept.com/discount/NotAllBusiness20 Follow A Bag Concept: https://www.instagram.com/abagconcept Not All Business is Sex Ed for Your Career: the honest work questions women want answered but rarely ask out loud. Hosted by Heather Cooper and Blakely Graham, alongside producer and co-host Clay Carnill, new episodes drop every Thursday covering the real stuff: workplace drama, salary negotiation, imposter syndrome, and the sticky situations nobody has a script for. Subscribe so you never miss the next conversation.Keywords: career advice for women, workplace mental health, women in business, women at work, working moms, workplace drama, toxic workplace, sticky situations, not all business, Blakely Graham, Heather Cooper, Clay Carnill, sticky situations, women at work, mental health at work, media literacy, hope over fear
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    1 ora e 11 min
  • How to Have Difficult Conversations at Work When It's Your Friend

    How to Have Difficult Conversations at Work When It's Your Friend
    Oct 8 2026
    Your friend helped you land a vendor. Now your company wants to end the contract, and you get to deliver the news. Who's talking, the friend or the person doing her job?Fresh from the Women of Pavilion summit in New York City, Heather and Blakely revisit the sticky situations women brought into the room. Rachel Johnson, founder of MoJo Marketing and co-lead of Women of Pavilion, joins them to share the answers she couldn't give while moderating their session.They tackle a coworker who thinks women should stay home, a promotion double standard, the pressure to learn AI, and a team that's afraid of the person trying to turn things around. Blakely also revisits her answer about AI and explains why she needed to consider the pressure facing women still in the workplace.Key Takeaways:Set boundaries with a dismissive coworker.Deliver bad news without losing a friendship.Ask for clear promotion criteria.Speak up for women who aren't in the room.Build AI skills without outsourcing your judgment.Name the problem while protecting confidential details.Check on the person holding everything together.Please consider sharing this episode and subscribing to the show for more of the career questions women want answered but rarely ask out loud.Follow Our Guest:Rachel Johnson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachel-m-johnson/ MoJo Marketing: https://mymojomarketing.com/ Follow Not All Business:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/notallbiz/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/notallbusiness/ Substack: https://notallbusiness.substack.com/ Links & Mentions:Pavilion: https://www.joinpavilion.com/ Women of Pavilion: https://community.joinpavilion.com/topics/28813/page/info Conversation with Dr. Amy Diehl, author of Glass Walls: https://community.joinpavilion.com/networks/events/292979 Pavilion Women's Summit playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3wshSFNsQTWyMIfoEbaypL?si=LJcAzXPJSY-ue-Dj74F2kQ Women in the Workplace 2025, McKinsey and LeanIn.Org research on promotion gaps: https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/diversity-and-inclusion/women-in-the-workplace Keith Harkin, the musician Heather & Blakely met in the airport lounge: https://www.keithharkin.com/ Melissa Moody, the give and the get: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissammoody Ginger Graham, whose advice to name the problem helps teams understand what's happening: https://gingerandbaker.com/who-we-are/ Swati Paliwal, the ReSO AI founder who led with what she could give before making her ask: https://www.linkedin.com/in/swatipaliwal1/ ReSO AI, Swati's company helping brands get discovered in AI search: https://www.linkedin.com/company/resollm-ai/ Submit Your Sticky Situations:Got a sticky situation for Not All Business? Send an email or voice recording to sticky@notallbusiness.com or drop your question in the comments.Thank You to Our Sponsors:Face Five Acne Clinic, Root-Cause Acne Care, No Harsh Prescriptions Required: https://facefiveacne.com/ - code NOTALLBIZ10 for 10% off your first orderFollow Face Five Skincare: https://www.instagram.com/facefiveskincare/ Follow Wellness with Yuki: https://www.instagram.com/wellnesswithyuki/ Not All Business is Sex Ed for Your Career: the honest work questions women want answered but rarely ask out loud. Hosted by Heather Cooper and Blakely Graham, alongside producer and co-host Clay Carnill, new episodes drop every Thursday covering the real stuff: workplace drama, salary negotiation, imposter syndrome, and the sticky situations nobody has a script for. Subscribe so you never miss the next conversation.
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    1 ora e 7 min
  • We Tried Pole Dancing. Looking in the Mirror Was the Hardest Part.

    We Tried Pole Dancing. Looking in the Mirror Was the Hardest Part.
    Oct 1 2026
    Heather and Blakely made a promise in Episode 1: after hearing how pole dancing changed Jamie Cole's confidence and leadership, they would try it themselves. One year later, they finally showed up at Rockstar Pole Fitness with heels in hand, seven friends beside them, and no idea what they were getting into.The class was physically harder and emotionally more vulnerable than they expected. They talk about the strength behind pole, the difference between sensuality and sexuality, and the challenge of looking at themselves without immediately comparing their bodies or abilities to someone else's.They also share what happened during the freestyle portion, why Heather's video landed in the hidden folder, how Blakely found one move she could own, and what slowing down can teach leaders about power and presence.Plus, Clay reviews the footage, Heather tests a routine at home using a door, and Blakely prepares to face a bear in her backyard.Key Takeaways:Why keeping a promise can still matter when it takes a year to follow throughHow Jamie Cole created a welcoming space for a vulnerable first experienceWhy pole dancing requires strength, technique, and repeated practiceThe difference between trying to look sexy and connecting with your own sensualityHow comparison can interrupt confidence in real timeWhy looking yourself in the eyes can feel harder than learning the choreographyHow leaning into one movement that feels good can help you find your grooveWhy confidence and presence are skills you can practiceWhat moving more slowly can teach leaders about power in a roomHow an uncomfortable experience can change the assumptions you carry into itFollow Our Hosts:Blakely Graham on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/blakelygraham/ Heather Cooper on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heathercooper.nab/ Clay Carnill on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/claycarnill/ Follow Not All Business:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/notallbiz/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/notallbusiness/ Substack: https://notallbusiness.substack.com/ Links & Mentions:Charli xcx, “Camera”: https://open.spotify.com/track/5Fdj0DtH4ZhymltyN5xEv2?si=066ac60c356547ac Jamie Cole on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pelirroja_poles/ Rockstar Pole Fitness on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rockstarpolefitness/ Revisit Episode 1 with Jamie Cole: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0ZHLd0KLYQ P-Valley on Starz: https://www.starz.com/us/en/series/p-valley/46156 (Jamie's fictional recommendation for its portrayal of the women and people of color who pioneered modern pole dancing and continue to lead the art form through club culture)Strip Down, Rise Up on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/80208242 (Jamie's documentary recommendation about pole dancing as a practice for healing and empowerment)Pole Artists Jamie Recommends FollowingDan Rosen Pole on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danrosenpole/ Fiyastarta on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vjsfiyastarta/ Doris Arnold on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dorisarnoldpoledancer/ Yung Pole Master on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/yungpolemaster/ Lux ATL on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lux_atl/ Move with Tara on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/movewithtara/ Red Ruby GoGo on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/redrubygogo/ Shelastic Wolf on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shelasticwolf/ Submit Your Sticky Situations:Got a sticky situation for Not All Business? Send an email or voice recording to sticky@notallbusiness.com or drop your question in the comments.Thank You to Our Sponsors:Face Five Acne Clinic, Root-Cause Acne Care, No Harsh Prescriptions Required: https://facefiveacne.com - code NOTALLBIZ10 for 10% off your first orderFollow Face Five Skincare: https://www.instagram.com/facefiveskincare/Follow Wellness with Yuki: https://www.instagram.com/wellnesswithyuki/
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    42 min
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