Actor and meditation teacher Jeff Kober joins Medium Curious for a wide-ranging, funny, and helpful conversation about the mystery: why trying to force “concrete truth” can make our world smaller and more painful—and how learning to live in the question can reopen hope, possibility, and compassion.

Jeff shares his origin story as a “reluctant meditator,” describing the inner hell of obsessive thoughts, the surprise of discovering he’s not his mind, and why spiritual practice isn’t about escaping life—it’s about imbuing each moment with consciousness, including grief, fear, anger, shame, and joy. Along the way - Sarah, Jane, and Jeff explore ego, “knowers,” skepticism and mediumship, creativity as a spiritual path (acting, directing, orchestral music), and what it means to be an example of love without pretending you’ve “got it.”

• The “concrete truth” trap: When someone’s certainty becomes unassailable, real conversation ends—and so does growth.
• Live in the question: Not having the answers isn’t failure; it can be the practice.
• Meditation creates space: Jeff describes the shift from “my thoughts are me” to “my thoughts are over there.”
• Ego wants safety now: Separation fuels fear and control; remembering oneness invites compassion.
• How to deal with “knowers”: Stay supple—and “be the bullfighter, not the cape.”
• Art is a spiritual training ground: Acting, directing, and playing music all rehearse presence, collaboration, vulnerability, and truth.
• Skepticism can be healthy: Jeff stays open to spirit and meaning without forcing the “how.”
• The point isn’t only “good vibes”: Consciousness wants the full human experience—joy and the honest depths of sadness, shame, anger, and grief.
• You’re not ruined: At your center is something “pure, whole, and complete,” untouched by what happened to you—or what you’ve done.

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“We’re meant to live in the question.” “The universe itself is infinitely loving and kind.” “Consciousness can only embody by forgetting its oneness with itself.” “From individuality, we are solely and wholly at the mercy of the ego.” “Can I continue to expand my consciousness enough to contain even these seeming opposite realities?”

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It’s a Sunday Solo, and Jane Morgan is showing up with a snotty nose, a tender nervous system, and a question a lot of us are carrying right now: what is spiritual practice actually for when nothing feels okay?

In this episode of Medium Curious, Jane talks honestly about living in a time when the news is relentless, your heart is tired, and the world feels like it’s teetering. She shares the ways she’s been “resourcing” herself — not to bypass what’s happening, but to stay in her body, steady her nervous system, and find a real corner of calm in the chaos.

You’ll hear a simple grounding visualization you can do anywhere (even while driving), a sweet nervous-system reset (hand on heart + belly), an easy breath “hack” (longer exhales), and a practical reminder to build a list of your personal resources — from nature walks and music to trusted friends, art, pets, and you betcha… angels.

Jane also shares a meaningful synchronicity around her birthday, a celestite crystal, a necklace with angel wings, and a reminder that when we find steadiness inside ourselves, it ripples outward. Because right now, being calm and centered isn’t just self-care — it’s service.

Mentioned in this episode:

• Angel Speak: How to Talk with Your Angels by Barbara Mark & Trudy Griswold

• Medium Curious episode with Cheryl (Chuck) Rosenthal on the nervous system

• A recent episode of Next Level Soul featuring Yogi Raj + a meditation on radiating peace

• Medium Curious episode with Radleigh Valentine on Angels

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• Spiritual practice isn’t “aspirational” right now — it’s a respite.

• If your nervous system isn’t calibrated, everything feels harder.

• Grounding (earth + divine connection) can bring you back to one.

• Hand on heart + hand on belly is a small gesture with big impact.

• Longer exhales (5 in / 7 out) can shift you out of fight-or-flight.

• Make a list of your personal “resources” so you can reach for them fast.

• Nature, music, art, pets, and trusted friends are real medicine.

• Calling in angels can be a practical support — and synchronicities happen.

• Calm isn’t denial — it’s a way to stay in your body and be of service.

• Your inner peace can ripple outward into your family and community.

• “My spiritual practice has become one of the few safe places — a respite.”

• “If I haven’t calibrated my nervous system, there’s no hope for me.”

• “Back to one. What is your one?”

• “When we come back to rest and digest, we can actually serve.”

• “Nature is ridiculously magical — it’s such a resource.”

• “Angels… babes. We can call them in.”

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Happy 2026… but also, do you promise we’re going to be okay? In this heartfelt, funny, and grounding episode, Jane reassures Sarah (and all of us) that we'll make it through the emotional whiplash of living in intense times—without bypassing, numbing, or checking out. And how do we best serve in these times?

Sarah and Jane talk about how to hold the dark and the light at the same time, what it looks like to ask Spirit for comfort in real life (and actually receive it), and why the message keeps coming through: there’s no single savior—community is the medicine.

Along the way: wildly specific synchronicities (coffee shop → nursery → the exact person you’re meant to see), “five stars” as a spirit sign, the concept of a buffer between feelings and actions, and a surprisingly powerful spiritual practice for 2026: make friends with your feelings, pause when agitated, and don’t add more harm.

• Your job isn’t to be okay all the time. Your job is to stay in the experience without abandoning yourself.
• Ask for comfort—out loud. “Universe, I need comfort today” is a real practice, not a cliché.
• Follow the thread. Intuition often shows up as a nudge toward a place, a person, a podcast, a Zoom call, a book—one next step at a time.
• Make friends with your feelings. Don’t outrun grief, anger, or fear. Sit with them, let them move, let them tell the truth.
• Feelings are real. Actions need discernment. The “buffer” is everything—pause, breathe, don’t send the text/email, don’t escalate harm.
• There’s no one hero coming to fix it. The through-line is collective: community, connection, mutual support.
• Discernment is a 2026 superpower. Not everything served to you is true. Learn what “yes” feels like in your body—and what “no” feels like too.
• Stay human. Love doesn’t mean rolling over. Love means refusing to multiply fear with fear.

Sarah (20:21): “There’s not going to be any one person that is going to be the answer… it’s going to be everyone coming together as community.”

Jane (49:17): “This is the year of authenticity… knowing what’s real and what’s true… you don’t have to defend it or… punch anybody, but you still get to know what’s real.”

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