Actor and meditation teacher Jeff Kober joins Medium Curious for a wide-ranging, funny, and helpful conversation about the mystery: why trying to force “concrete truth” can make our world smaller and more painful—and how learning to live in the question can reopen hope, possibility, and compassion.

Jeff shares his origin story as a “reluctant meditator,” describing the inner hell of obsessive thoughts, the surprise of discovering he’s not his mind, and why spiritual practice isn’t about escaping life—it’s about imbuing each moment with consciousness, including grief, fear, anger, shame, and joy. Along the way - Sarah, Jane, and Jeff explore ego, “knowers,” skepticism and mediumship, creativity as a spiritual path (acting, directing, orchestral music), and what it means to be an example of love without pretending you’ve “got it.”

• The “concrete truth” trap: When someone’s certainty becomes unassailable, real conversation ends—and so does growth.
• Live in the question: Not having the answers isn’t failure; it can be the practice.
• Meditation creates space: Jeff describes the shift from “my thoughts are me” to “my thoughts are over there.”
• Ego wants safety now: Separation fuels fear and control; remembering oneness invites compassion.
• How to deal with “knowers”: Stay supple—and “be the bullfighter, not the cape.”
• Art is a spiritual training ground: Acting, directing, and playing music all rehearse presence, collaboration, vulnerability, and truth.
• Skepticism can be healthy: Jeff stays open to spirit and meaning without forcing the “how.”
• The point isn’t only “good vibes”: Consciousness wants the full human experience—joy and the honest depths of sadness, shame, anger, and grief.
• You’re not ruined: At your center is something “pure, whole, and complete,” untouched by what happened to you—or what you’ve done.

Jeff Kober

“We’re meant to live in the question.” “The universe itself is infinitely loving and kind.” “Consciousness can only embody by forgetting its oneness with itself.” “From individuality, we are solely and wholly at the mercy of the ego.” “Can I continue to expand my consciousness enough to contain even these seeming opposite realities?”

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