In this comforting episode, Andrew and Karin sit down with therapist, yoga instructor, and death doula Bee Carlin (Brandi Carlin) to open up conversations around end-of-life care and grief. Bee explains the role of a death doula - a non-clinical support system that guides individuals and their families through the physical, emotional, and practical aspects of dying and post-death grieving. Drawing from her background in trauma and grief therapy, Bee breaks down how end-of-life planning elevates dignity, eases the emotional decision-making burden on loved ones, and takes the fear out of a topic society so often avoids. Together, they discuss practical strategies for starting sensitive end-of-life conversations early, supporting caregivers through anticipatory grief, and navigating the peaceful, surreal transitions that often accompany cognitive decline and terminal illness. Taking us into what is becoming an invaluable support piece to face the realiteis of mortality, Bee offers a reassuring perspective on why honoring death ultimately makes life sweeter, richer, and more meaningful.
Resources & Links Mentioned in This Episode:
-Connect with Bee: Follow along on Instagram at @sacred_exhale or learn more about her practice via her Psychology Today profile.
-Pneuma Center Groups & Workshops: Explore community support through the Pneuma Center Grief Group and upcoming Death Meditation sessions.
-Recommended Reading: Discover helpful end-of-life guides and booklets at BK Books (featuring Barbara Karnes' essential hospice resources).
Chapters - (00:00:07) - Intro and show format
- (00:01:31) - How we met Bea and discovered death doulas
- (00:04:50) - Our dad's death and hospice experience
- (00:08:26) - Final moments and lessons learned
- (00:10:17) - Mom's music interlude and yoga studio chat
- (00:12:59) - Introducing Bea and what a death doula does
- (00:20:42) - Death doula vs hospice, scope of practice
- (00:23:32) - Certification and training as a death doula
- (00:27:48) - Navigating grief and emotions around the dying
- (00:31:57) - The dying process and moments of peace
- (00:35:58) - Mom's dementia and finding joy amid loss
- (00:38:25) - What sessions with a death doula look like
- (00:40:39) - Grief, isolation, and community
- (00:41:43) - Cost, capacity, and sliding scale services
- (00:47:29) - Starting conversations about end of life wishes
- (00:49:30) - The Pit TV show and family alignment
- (00:50:34) - Final advice and sci-fi immortality question
- (00:53:15) - Closing thanks and mom's song
- (00:54:58) - Takeaways and wrap up