Jay-Z vs Ye debate GOES LEFT INSTANTLY! Captain Tazaryach and Loon clash over Jay-Z's NFL deal, Colin Kaepernick, Kyrie Irving and Candace Owens in this heated It's Up There interview. Captain Tazaryach joins Loon on It's Up There Podcast for Part 1 of a heated conversation about hip-hop, Black culture, loyalty, cancel culture, power and what happens when principles collide with business. The conversation takes a major turn when Captain Tazaryach compares Kanye West's willingness to speak freely with Jay-Z's partnership with the NFL. Loon challenges the comparison, raising Colin Kaepernick's protest, the consequences of Jay-Z's NFL relationship and whether Kanye is being judged by a different standard. Did Jay-Z let the culture down? Does Kanye deserve more grace? And can one controversial business decision change how an entire generation views an artist? The discussion doesn't stop there. Captain Tazaryach and Loon examine the backlash against Kyrie Irving, why controversial public figures such as Candace Owens need security, Kanye's comeback from cancellation, Martin Luther King Jr.'s philosophy of nonviolence and the debate surrounding DaBaby's refusal to accept a painting of his daughters. They also discuss the Black Hebrew Israelite movement, prison outreach, Black men and women's loyalty, self-defense and the responsibilities that come with cultural influence. Two strong perspectives. Major disagreements. And questions that go beyond music. Watch the full conversation and decide which arguments hold up. **JOIN THE IT'S UP THERE COMMUNITY** Exclusive content and early access: https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast Subscribe to It's Up There Podcast for long-form interviews, cultural conversations and exclusive episodes with Loon. **CHAPTERS — SOURCE TIMELINE** 00:00 Jay-Z vs Ye debate — opening highlights 03:10 Media loyalty and Charleston White preview 05:26 Captain Tazaryach joins Loon 08:03 Captain explains his organization and beliefs 09:37 Black and Latino unity 12:51 Who belongs in the movement? 15:15 Captain explains Israelite ranks and divisions 18:15 Why the movement reaches into prisons 21:24 Self-defense, discipline and security 22:45 Captain questions MLK's nonviolence 25:06 Religious identity and history 30:27 Kyrie Irving and public backlash 33:31 Kanye West's comeback and Wireless Festival 37:18 Jay-Z vs Kanye — the NFL argument begins 42:18 Loon challenges Captain's standard for Jay-Z 45:00 Can one decision define Jay-Z's legacy? 47:07 Is Kanye West really free? 48:51 Sponsors, apologies and cancel culture 53:12 Tucker Carlson and political influence 55:35 Candace Owens and the security debate 59:14 DaBaby and the painting of his daughters 1:01:33 Charleston White discussion teased #CaptainTazaryach #JayZ #KanyeWest Captain Tazaryach says Kanye and Jay-Z shouldn't be judged the same way. Loon challenges that after the Colin Kaepernick/NFL situation comes up. 👀 Did Jay-Z let Black culture down with the NFL deal, or does his entire career deserve more grace? And what did you think about Captain's positions on Kyrie Irving and Candace Owens? **WHO MADE THE STRONGER ARGUMENT — LOON OR CAPTAIN?** 👇 Join Our Its Up There Podcast Clip Channel now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEh6Wk40kcNcMJ4t_jtmluw Discord https://discord.gg/GJKXMWQS For all exclusive interviews & more content not here click here https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🚨Unreleased Interviews https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🦺All Merch Options teespring.com/its-up-there-podcast-merch 🎧LISTEN ON SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4Jheeb8FxYVDRo8khyrz36?si=e339dD2JRte2MYX2Uon3BQ 👀 SUBSCRIBE HERE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw 👂 LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-up-there-podcast/id1317524092?uo=4 👣FOLLOW ITS UP THERE PODCAST HOST : INSTAGRAM | fogfo_looney TIKTOK | https://www.tiktok.com/@fogfo_looney PATREON| https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast SUBSCRIBE TO Youtube Channel ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw WATCH MORE ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwNIuOcAtoo&list=PLnwwxLxHiDWayq4HPgNYUtsAGvqe3liOO

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Loon returns to Internal Affairs to break down Bloodhound Q50’s final minutes, Lil Durk’s new federal fight after his acquittal, and the Chicago drill cycle that refuses to slow down. After Lil Durk beat the murder-for-hire case, the celebration came with one major problem: he still wasn’t going home. Loon breaks down the separate federal case still hanging over Durk, the possibility of bond, what prosecutors may try next, the role of cooperating witnesses, jury psychology and whether Durk should ever consider a deal. Then the conversation turns to Chicago. Following the death of Bloodhound Q50, Loon examines the surveillance footage, the moments leading into the ambush and the debate happening online over whether there was any move that realistically could have changed what happened. But the larger question becomes even bigger than Q50. Why are young Chicago artists still chasing drill when so many of the genre’s biggest stories have ended in prison or death? Did Chief Keef, Lil Durk and G Herbo succeed because of drill — or because they had real talent underneath the image? What happens when beef becomes the marketing plan, notoriety becomes currency and artists feel like they have to stay connected to the same environment they finally earned enough money to escape? Loon also speaks on being around Young Thug and Lil Baby in Atlanta, the pressure that comes with success, labels backing away from violent drill culture and whether Lil Durk would be wrong to completely change his circle if he eventually comes home. This is Internal Affairs. Subscribe and turn notifications on for more long-form conversations from Big Loon. #BloodhoundQ50 #LilDurk #ChicagoDrillJoin 00:00 Internal Affairs Returns 00:39 What Happens to Lil Durk After Beating the Feds? 01:22 Could Lil Durk Finally Get Bond? 04:41 The New Federal Case Against Durk 11:30 Did the Federal Informant Playbook Stop Working? 15:30 Why Jury Selection Changed Everything 22:01 Should Lil Durk Ever Take a Deal? 29:13 What Loon Saw Around Young Thug & Lil Baby 32:37 Why Chicago Drill Still Hasn’t Slowed Down 38:52 The Bloodhound Q50 Situation 40:27 Q50’s Final Minutes Before the Ambush 41:19 Was There Any Move Q50 Could Have Made? 50:02 When Rap Money Runs Out 53:06 When Is It Time to Leave the Neighborhood? 58:11 Did Drill Really Make Chief Keef Successful? 01:03:07 Loon Challenges the Biggest Myth About Drill 01:07:13 Why Labels Are Scared of Chicago Drill 01:08:29 The Feds Move on O-Block 01:09:27 Would Durk Be Wrong to Cut Everybody Off? Our Its Up There Podcast Clip Channel now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEh6Wk40kcNcMJ4t_jtmluw Discord https://discord.gg/GJKXMWQS For all exclusive interviews & more content not here click here https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🚨Unreleased Interviews https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🦺All Merch Options teespring.com/its-up-there-podcast-merch 🎧LISTEN ON SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4Jheeb8FxYVDRo8khyrz36?si=e339dD2JRte2MYX2Uon3BQ 👀 SUBSCRIBE HERE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw 👂 LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-up-there-podcast/id1317524092?uo=4 👣FOLLOW ITS UP THERE PODCAST HOST : INSTAGRAM | fogfo_looney TIKTOK | https://www.tiktok.com/@fogfo_looney PATREON| https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast SUBSCRIBE TO Youtube Channel ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw WATCH MORE ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwNIuOcAtoo&list=PLnwwxLxHiDWayq4HPgNYUtsAGvqe3liOO

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Boosie says he paid $600K for a pardon that never came. What was he afraid of losing? Loon goes off on J. Prince Jr. and the choices putting a family legacy at stake. Full episode of Internal Affairs. Boosie Badazz’s failed push for a presidential pardon has become a fight over money, promises and what happens when celebrity meets Washington. After Boosie’s account of paying pardon lobbyists $600,000, Loon challenges what drove the decision, revisits the 60 Minutes coverage and questions whether taking the dispute public could create another problem. Why did avoiding another prison sentence matter so much this time? What did Boosie believe he was paying for? And when Gucci Mane enters the conversation, do the same street rules still apply? Loon examines the argument without letting either side skip the difficult questions. J Prince Jr’s decisions get the same scrutiny. Loon examines the Houston incident involving Allstar JR, NBA Ben 10 and OG 3, questions the RICO speculation, and challenges what people can actually conclude from the footage. Then the conversation turns to the Prince family name, the opportunities it creates and the choices Loon believes could put that legacy at risk. The Finesse2Tymes and Mob Ties dispute adds another layer: artist contracts, album options, loyalty and the business consequences of a public falling-out. The episode also opens with Lil Durk and a difficult question: if he makes it home, does he owe his old circle the same access to his life? Loon pushes back on the drill-money argument and the pressure to maintain a street image. Watch the full conversation, then tell us where you stand: after paying $600K, would you keep fighting for a refund? And is J Prince Jr building on his father’s legacy or putting it at risk? Subscribe to It’s Up There Podcast for Internal Affairs with Big Loon. Leave your take and the timestamp of the moment you agree or disagree with most. 00:00 If Lil Durk comes home, what does he owe his circle? 00:58 Loon challenges the drill-money argument 05:46 Borrowed street reputations and rap image 13:32 J Prince Jr, NBA Ben 10 and the Houston arrests 17:36 Federal interest and the questions around J Prince Jr 19:49 Loon challenges the RICO speculation 24:47 J Prince Jr, Finesse2Tymes and the money questions 27:12 A father’s legacy and a son’s decisions 34:15 Mob Ties, reputation and the cost of a falling-out 40:33 Record deals, album options and trying to leave 48:30 Boosie’s $600K pardon dispute 50:22 What was Boosie really afraid of losing? 53:27 Could fighting for a refund create more problems? 55:54 VladTV, 60 Minutes and the disputed agreement 58:11 When business meets street rules 1:00:09 Why Gucci Mane enters the Boosie debate 1:02:35 Why Boosie still wanted the pardon 1:07:21 What would another prison sentence change? 1:09:55 Paying for access and the promise of a pardon 1:12:52 Boosie, celebrity and the media’s framing 1:16:25 Taking the fight public: does fame give you leverage? 1:18:25 Final thoughts #Boosie #JPrinceJr #bigloon Pinned comment After paying $600K, would you keep fighting for a refund—or walk away? And is J Prince Jr building on his father’s legacy or putting it at risk? Drop your take and the timestamp you’re responding to. Join Our Its Up There Podcast Clip Channel now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEh6Wk40kcNcMJ4t_jtmluw Discord https://discord.gg/GJKXMWQS For all exclusive interviews & more content not here click here https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🚨Unreleased Interviews https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🦺All Merch Options teespring.com/its-up-there-podcast-merch 🎧LISTEN ON SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4Jheeb8FxYVDRo8khyrz36?si=e339dD2JRte2MYX2Uon3BQ 👀 SUBSCRIBE HERE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw 👂 LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-up-there-podcast/id1317524092?uo=4 👣FOLLOW ITS UP THERE PODCAST HOST : INSTAGRAM | fogfo_looney TIKTOK | https://www.tiktok.com/@fogfo_looney PATREON| https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast SUBSCRIBE TO Youtube Channel ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw WATCH MORE ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwNIuOcAtoo&list=PLnwwxLxHiDWayq4HPgNYUtsAGvqe3liOO

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