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Getting Real with Bossy: For Women Who Own Business

Getting Real with Bossy: For Women Who Own Business

Di: Kelly Metras & Kelly Bush
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The Real Raw and Honest podcast about small business ownership hosted by Kelly Bush + Kelly Metras, co-owners of BOSSY ROC, a support group for business owners. With our experience, nine businesses in over 25 years, we continue to bear it all and share what we wish we had known. We move past the must-be-nices and start getting real. Come along as we interview other business owners and get the true story. New episodes every 2nd and 4th Monday of the month. www.BossyRoc.comCopyright 2022 All rights reserved. Economia Gestione e leadership Leadership Scienze sociali
  • Own Your Work, Protect Your Worth: Legal Strategies with Elissa Hecker
    Oct 12 2026

    Building a creative business or small venture without legal scaffolding is like building a house on sand— it works great until the storm hits. In this episode, we sit down with Elissa Hecker, an attorney who expertly bridges the gap between law, art, and commerce.

    Together, we demystify the essential legal steps every small business owner, creator, and entrepreneur needs to take to protect their work, prevent heartbreak, and build for scalable growth.

    From forming an LLC and registering trademarks to navigating the wild west of AI-generated content and negotiating like a pro, Elissa breaks down how a little upfront planning saves you massive stress (and money!) down the road.

    Key Takeaways & Episode Highlights:

    Build Your Core Advisory Team Early: You don't need a massive corporate structure, but you do need a solid "Power Trio": a trusted lawyer, an accountant, and an insurance broker. Getting these experts in your corner early prevents costly pitfalls later.

    Get It in Writing (Always!): Clear collaboration agreements, scope-of-work terms, and explicit work-for-hire or assignment clauses aren't about distrust—they are about setting clear expectations, preserving relationships, and avoiding ambiguity.

    Proactive Protection: Don't wait until someone steals your work to think about copyrights and trademarks. Registering early gives you real legal teeth, statutory damages, and stronger enforcement power.

    The AI Boundary: Relying on AI for creative output? Be careful. AI-generated works generally lack copyright protection under current law. Keep human origin materials and original drafts to ensure your assets remain protectable.

    Start with "Why": Before rushing into contracts or big business maneuvers, stop and ask why. Reflect on your real capacity, desired terms, and long-term vision before committing.

    Stop Negotiating Against Yourself: Women entrepreneurs and small business owners often concede value before the other party even responds. Practice assertive negotiation and know your worth before stepping up to the table.

    Podcast & Creator Essentials: Operating in the digital space? Make sure you’re securing signed guest releases for audio/video media and lock down clear ownership language for commissioned work.

    Tell us what you think of this week's episode at bossyroc@gmail.com.

    Links & Resources Mentioned:

    Elissa Hecker, Esq.: eheckeresq.com

    bossyco.com

    Mentioned in this episode:

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    55 min
  • Intentional Business: Know Your Value, Cap Your Size
    Oct 5 2026

    When you take a business trip to New York City, it’s easy to get sucked into the tourist traps, long lines, and overpriced entry tickets. But how do you create an experience- and a business model—that actually connects with people on a human level?

    In this episode, we sit down with Adam Guy, founder of I Know a Guy NYC Tours, to talk about what it takes to guide visitors beyond the usual NYC checklist. After leaving a long career in the non-profit sector and training at Trip School following the pandemic, Adam bet on himself to build a boutique, highly customized tour company centered on history, vibrant neighborhoods, and real local culture.

    We dive deep into the intentional choices behind his business model: why he refuses to scale up by hiring a fleet of guides, how keeping group sizes small lets him deliver genuine value, and why word-of-mouth beats broad paid ads every single time. Whether you're an entrepreneur wrestling with the pressure to grow "big" or a traveler looking for a better way to navigate the City, this conversation is packed with honest business wisdom and practical insight.

    Key Takeaways & Operational Realities

    Scale standard, or scale value? Adam chose to grow his business by gradually raising his prices rather than expanding his headcount. Keeping group sizes capped allows him to preserve the personal connection that makes his tours special without sacrificing profitability.

    Relationships over advertising dollars: Instead of relying on third-party booking algorithms or massive ad budgets, Adam built a steady pipeline of repeat business through word-of-mouth, direct outreach, and hyper-targeted communities like Facebook mom groups.

    The non-profit transition: Pivoting from non-profit work to solo entrepreneurship required equal parts grit, strategic reinvention, and trust in the process—especially during slow seasons and early financial uncertainty.

    Curating the experience: True hospitality isn't just showing up on the day of the tour; it’s co-planning the itinerary ahead of time, teaching guests how to confidently navigate the subway, and saving them hours of waiting in line.

    Connect & Connect More

    Looking to skip the line and experience NYC like a true insider on your next trip? Connect with Adam to plan a private, small-group tour tailored to your schedule and interests.

    Website: www.iknowaguy.nyc

    Reach Out Directly: Contact Adam to design a custom itinerary for your family, partner, or small group.

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    51 min
  • From Burnout to Buyout: Are You in Control of Your Business Exit?
    Sep 21 2026

    Welcome to another episode of Getting Real with BOSSY! Whether you are building an empire, hitting a wall, or quietly wondering "Is it time to wrap this up?", today’s episode is a must-listen.

    We’re stripping away the ego and taking a real, raw, and honest look at how small business owners should plan for an exit, a sale, or a closure, and the exact steps needed to do so responsibly.

    Episode Overview

    Is your business a lifelong identity, or is it just a chapter in your life?

    When the weight of small business ownership gets heavy, it’s easy to throw your hands up and say, "I'm done." But before you lock the doors or put up a for-sale sign, you need to answer one critical question: Are you genuinely ready to exit, or are you just deeply burned out?

    Burnout can often be fixed with better systems, boundaries, or a good vacation. An exit, however, is a permanent choice for your future.

    In this episode, we lay down the unvarnished truth about what it actually takes to leave your business on your own terms. We dive deep into the sober numbers, the operational realities, and the emotional heavy lifting required whether you decide to sell for a profit, liquidate assets, or simply close up shop and walk away.

    Key Takeaways

    • Burnout vs. True Exit Desire: Learn how to separate temporary exhaustion from a genuine readiness to move on. Fixable operational problems shouldn't destroy a viable business.

    • Know Your Real Numbers: Write down your realistic sale price, debt relief goals, and emotional wish list. Do not let ego or emotional investment dictate your valuation.

    • Get Your Books Clean: Before you even think about putting a business on the market, clean up your financial records. Work with a CPA or bookkeeper to present accurate, bulletproof P&Ls.

    • Build Systems That Don't Need You: A business that relies entirely on a single indispensable owner isn't a saleable asset, it’s a job. Build SOPs and training so the enterprise can run without you.

    • Calculate the TRUE Cost of Closing: Shutting down isn't always free. Calculate ongoing leases, mortgages, taxes, carrying costs, and unexpected liabilities before pulling the plug.

    • Keep Your Circle Small: Plan discreetly. Surround yourself with trusted advisors (brokers, CPAs, legal counsel) and avoid floating exit rumors to staff or clients before you're ready.

    • It’s a Chapter, not a Failure: Pivoting, selling, or closing a business is not a personal failure- it is a valid, courageous transition in your broader journey.

    Free Resource Checklist

    Ready to assess your business’s exit readiness? Download our Small Business Exit & Transition Checklist at www.bossyco.com to start auditing your systems, cleaning up your books, and clarifying your next steps.

    Companies & References Mentioned

    • Bossy Co. (www.bossyco.com)

    • Buffalo Bills @gobills

    Connect & Share

    Did this episode resonate with you? Screenshot this episode, tag us on social media, and let us know your biggest takeaway. If you know a fellow business owner who needs to hear this conversation today, pass it along!

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    39 min
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