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FRIED. The Burnout Podcast

FRIED. The Burnout Podcast

Di: Cait Donovan Top Burnout Expert for Corporate and Nonprofit Organizations
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FRIED: The Burnout Podcast is a top 1% global podcast hosted by burnout expert and keynote speaker Cait Donovan. It’s for leaders, teams, and high-achieving humans who are done treating exhaustion as the cost of ambition.

For its first 10 seasons, FRIED focused primarily on individual burnout recovery—helping listeners understand their nervous systems, boundaries, and capacity. Starting in Season 11, the conversation expands.

FRIED now takes a more organizational and leadership-level view of burnout, exploring how the fit between people, roles, expectations, and systems determines whether work is sustainable or slowly burns people out.

Each week, you’ll hear:

  • Conversations with professionals and leaders who’ve recovered from burnout
  • Insights on leadership, workplace stress, and organizational design
  • Solo episodes where Cait breaks down how hidden mismatches quietly drive disengagement, resentment, turnover, and burnout—even in high-performing cultures


At its core, FRIED asks a different question than most burnout conversations:

Where is the work no longer matching the humans doing it?

Burnout is rarely a motivation problem. It’s a mismatch problem. FRIED helps leaders and organizations spot those mismatches early and make practical, human-centered adjustments that improve both performance and wellbeing.

You’ll love FRIED: The Burnout Podcast if you’re a leader, manager, HR professional, or high-responsibility human who wants to reduce burnout without lowering standards or blaming people.

Welcome to FRIED.

Let’s build work that matches.

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  • #straightfromcait: Burnout Isn’t About Resilience. It’s About Match.
    Jan 25 2026

    Burnout recovery does not start with fixing yourself. It starts with understanding job fit, burnout at work, and whether there is a true values match between who you are and what your work and life demand.


    Cait Donovan returns with a #straightfromcait episode that marks a turning point in how she thinks about burnout and in the writing of her next book. After years of explaining burnout as a complex web shaped by childhood, culture, health, personality, and work, she hits a wall. Information alone does not change behavior. What people need is a clearer way to see why burnout keeps showing up and what actually drives it beneath the surface.


    That insight leads to a powerful reframe. Burnout at work is often the result of poor job fit and ongoing misalignment, not personal weakness or bad leadership. Cait unpacks how mismatches around autonomy, expectations, and success quietly drain energy over time. More freedom does not always help. Promotion does not always equal growth. What happens when your role conflicts with your values or asks for something you cannot sustain? And how often do we accept those mismatches without ever questioning them?


    This episode also sets the direction for what comes next on the podcast. Cait shares how future conversations will focus on creating better alignment through values match, mattering, hope, and leadership at work. The invitation is simple and challenging. What would change if fit mattered as much as performance? And how much burnout could be prevented if mismatch was addressed before it turned into exhaustion?



    Episode Breakdown:

    00:00 Burnout as a Mismatch Problem

    02:29 Job Fit, Autonomy, and Burnout at Work

    04:47 Values Match and Redefining Success

    05:43 How Better Alignment Reduces Burnout



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  • Re-Release: 7 Stages of Burnout with Mandy Lehto
    Jan 18 2026

    You don’t have to carry burnout alone. The right support can help you breathe again—start here: https://caitdonovan.com/coaching


    Burnout is less a breaking point than a slow unravelling of identity and the seven messy phases high achievers cycle through on the way back to themselves.


    We’re revisiting a conversation with Dr. Mandy Lehto that still holds relevance for anyone who has pushed past their limits and felt the ground shift beneath them. Mandy and Cait talk through burnout as a gradual process shaped by denial, urgency, over-efforting, and grief, rather than a single moment of collapse. Mandy’s “seven-ish” buckets offer language for patterns many high achievers recognize but rarely name. When the strategies that once drove success stop working, how do you begin to make sense of what comes next?


    Burnout is framed here as an identity reckoning rather than a problem to fix or outwork. It often surfaces when performance quietly replaces self-trust and effort becomes the main source of worth. What happens when pushing harder no longer brings clarity or relief? What does it ask of you when the body stops cooperating with the plan?


    The episode invites a different relationship with healing. One that allows uncertainty, grief, and slowness to exist without turning them into another project. Wholeness does not arrive as polish or resolution. It shows up through honesty, embodiment, and the growing ability to stop performing for approval. For anyone navigating the space between who they were trained to be and who they are becoming, this episode offers perspective, language, and permission to stay with the process.


    Episode Breakdown:

    00:00 The Seven Phases of Burnout Recovery for High Achievers

    01:35 Denial and the Push-Harder Pattern That Starts the Slide

    06:38 Triage Mode and Why Your Worth Can Feel Tied to Productivity

    15:19 Reluctant Surrender and the Grief of Losing Your Old Identity

    19:10 The Humbling and What Acceptance Actually Looks Like

    30:31 Achievement Addiction, Dopamine, and the Crash After Big Wins

    39:02 Chutes and Ladders and Practicing Self-Acceptance in Real Life

    42:28 Wholeness Equals Whole Mess and Reclaiming Your Energy

    47:14 When Support Helps Most and Why Recovery Becomes an Inside Job


    If today’s episode sparked ideas for your team, Cait is available for keynotes, workshops, and leadership sessions. Learn more here: https://caitdonovan.as.me/inquire


    Connect with Mandy Lehto:

    Visit Mandy's Website

    Follow Mandy on Instagram

    Connect with Mandy on LinkedIn


    Connect with Cait:

    Initial Call with Cait


    You don’t have to carry burnout alone. The right support can help you breathe again—start here: https://caitdonovan.com/coaching


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  • Tess Brigham: Why Millennials Might Be The Most Burned Out of Us All
    Jan 11 2026

    What if you could step into a room filled with the people who hold the keys to the big stages, the book deals, and the most powerful platforms for your voice? The Gateway Gathering Pitch Fest is a visibility accelerator for thought-leaders. Whether you’re ready to pitch or just want to discover what’s possible, join us January 13 – 15. Visit: https://bit.ly/friedgateway


    Why do millennials seem more exhausted than everyone else, and what does that say about the world they came of age in? Cait Donovan and Tess Brigham challenge the idea that burnout is caused by laziness, entitlement, or bad time management and instead look at the conditions that shaped an entire generation’s relationship to work, money, and ambition.


    Millennials were taught to chase fulfillment through work while absorbing the expectation of constant availability, rising debt, and shrinking financial stability. That combination created a version of success that looked good on paper but often felt unsustainable in real life. Burnout, in this light, reads less like a personal breakdown and more like a rational response to a system that never powered down.


    The conversation also reframes generational tension as misunderstanding rather than failure. Gen Z’s boundaries and openness around mental health are not rejections of effort. They are adaptations shaped by watching what relentless grind actually costs. What looks like resistance may be awareness.


    This episode asks a quieter but harder question: what happens when the path you committed to no longer fits who you are or the life you want? Burnout becomes an invitation to reassess rather than a reason for shame. Less judgment, more curiosity, and the courage to question stories about success that were never designed to hold up under the weight they now carry.


    Episode Breakdown:

    00:00 Why Burnout Is a Generational Issue, Not a Personal Failure

    01:15 Tess Brigham on Her Quarter-Life Crisis and Early Burnout

    09:25 Why Millennials Experience Burnout Differently Than Other Generations

    19:26 Student Debt, Financial Pressure, and the Burnout Equation

    30:11 Mental Health, Boundaries, and What Gen Z Is Doing Differently

    39:03 When Burnout Signals It’s Time to Reassess Your Path


    Connect with Tess Brigham:

    Visit Tess' Website

    Follow Tess on Instagram

    Connect with Tess on LinkedIn


    Connect with Cait:

    Initial Call with Cait


    Burnout Recovery works better with support. UNFRIED is our small group (6 people max!) coaching program to help guide you through your recovery. Find out more here: http://bit.ly/unfried


    If this episode resonated and you’re not sure where to go next, the FRIED Episode Finder can guide you to the next right listen: https://bit.ly/friedfinder



    What if you could step into a room filled with the people who hold the keys to the big stages, the book deals, and the most powerful platforms for your voice? The Gateway Gathering Pitch Fest is a visibility accelerator for thought-leaders. Whether you’re ready to pitch or just want to discover what’s possible, join us January 13 – 15. Visit: https://bit.ly/friedgateway



    Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm


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