TW: domestic violence, suicidal ideation, child neglect, miscarriage, addiction.

In Part 2, Kail tells me about the dad she built into a knight in her head, the night in 2019 she wasn't sure she'd take another breath, and the question she still can't put down: am I her?

Interview, narration, and editing by Becky Hayter, with post-production, scripting, and sound design by Emily Nadal.

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Retirement is one of those topics everyone throws numbers at you about. You need a million dollars. You should have six times your salary saved by 50. You should be maxing everything out. And honestly? It makes me want to close Instagram and pretend retirement doesn't exist.

But here's what Alex helped me understand this week: avoiding it doesn't make the problem smaller. It just makes it harder to fix later. So we're actually digging in.

The Solution:

Start now, not "when you make more." A $500/month contribution at 8% gets you $1.75M if you start at 25, but only $745K if you wait until 35. Same money. The difference is time.

Know your real number. The 80% rule and the 4% rule are starting points, not gospel. We walk through what they actually mean and why your number is more situational than the internet wants you to believe.

Build from multiple buckets. 401(k)s, Roth IRAs, traditional IRAs, HSAs, brokerage accounts, Social Security. The strongest plans pull from different tax buckets so you have flexibility later.

Avoid the five big mistakes. Waiting for the perfect time, skipping your employer match, staying in cash too long, ignoring healthcare costs, and assuming Social Security alone will carry you.

Plus, we answer a listener question from Emma, who paid off $170K in student loans and wants to know how to prioritize everything at once. Her situation is a masterclass in juggling goals.

This week's homework: Take 10 minutes to check your retirement accounts, your contribution rates, and your employer benefits. That's it. Awareness is always the first step.

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TW: child neglect, addiction, sexual assault, abortion.

You met Kail Lowry at 16, pregnant, on national TV. You never met the girl who came before her. The twenty-some moves, the locked doors, the childhood she spent raising herself long before any cameras showed up. I've known Kail for over ten years and thought I knew her story. I didn't know the half of it. This is part one: the years no one was watching.

Interview, narration, and editing by Becky Hayter, with post-production, scripting, and sound design by Emily Nadal.

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