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Do most people misunderstand the true nature of Antizionism?

Dan sits down with renowned computer scientist and public intellectual Judea Pearl to understand why he coined the term “Zionophobia.” Pearl argues that Antizionism is not simply policy criticism but a rejection of Jewish collective sovereignty.

Pearl shares his personal story, that dates back to the founding of Israel, and explains how the murder of his son, Daniel Pearl, and the violence of the Second Intifada have reshaped his thinking about Israel, identity, and moral clarity.

The conversation spans failed peace efforts, the politics of language, the meaning of indigeneity, and Pearl’s warning that Israel’s greatest long-term vulnerability may be the erosion of bipartisan American support.

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In this episode:

- From AI pioneer to Zionist advocate

- “Zionophobia,” not anti-Semitism

- Terrorism, moral asymmetry, and the Carter controversy

- Why peace efforts failed and what was misunderstood

- Indigeneity, sovereignty, and competing narratives

- Education as the true battlefield

- The bipartisan question and Israel’s strategic future

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For years, normalization between Saudi Arabia and Israel was seen as the ultimate goal of the Abraham Accords and the final step towards unlocking regional stability. But a sharp rivalry is heating up between Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and UAE President Mohammed bin Zayed. Dan is joined by Yonatan Adiri and Yael Wissner-Levy to unpack the economic, political, and personal dynamics driving this feud, what it means for Israel, and why India and global energy corridors may matter more than most people realize.

In this episode:

- MBS’s Vision 2030 under pressure and the internal Saudi recalibration

- The Yemen flashpoint that ruptured the Saudi–UAE relationship

- Mentor turned rival: How MBS and MBZ went from alignment to confrontation

- Energy corridors, IMEC, and the India factor

- Is Israel collateral damage or strategically positioned?

- Why UAE’s “infrastructure diplomacy” may be winning quietly

- The future of normalization versus regional integration

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This is a sneak peek from the latest Inside Call me Back, the members-only edition of the podcast. Following Bret Stephens’ controversial “State of the World Jewry” speech, Jonathan Greenblatt, CEO of the Anti-Defamation League, joins Dan to respond directly.

Is the Jewish community overinvested in fighting antisemitism? Did institutions miss the warning signs before October 7? And can Jewish identity flourish without first ensuring Jewish security?

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Jonathan Greenblatt, CEO of Anti-Defamation League, joins Dan to respond to Brett Stephens’ controversial “State of the World Jewry” speech, which argued that too many Jewish resources are invested in fighting Antisemitism, rather than building a Jewish life. Jonathan, whom Bret called out by name, tells Dan that the two mustn’t be seen as mutually exclusive. The two also discuss whether Jewish institutions should do some soul searching after being blindsided by Oct. 8, whether the Blue Square Alliance Superbowl ad missed the mark, and what the data’s showing about anti-Jewish trends in America.

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Are the U.S. and Iran heading toward a deal — or a strike?

Just hours after Prime Minister Netanyahu’s meeting with President Trump at the White House, Dan is joined by Ark Media contributor Nadav Eyal to unpack what we know, what Israel is demanding, and whether military action is becoming more likely. They discuss the state of U.S.–Iran negotiations, regional military preparations, China’s energy interests, and what the upcoming “Board of Peace” could mean for Gaza’s reconstruction.

In this episode:

- What Netanyahu asked for in Washington

- Why Israeli officials think the Iran talks may be “dead on arrival”

- U.S. military buildup and strike contingencies

- Why Trump’s Iran policy is not about Israel — and never has been

- The China factor: oil, energy, and Cold War II

- Will Israel participate in a strike?

- The Board of Peace and a potential Marshall Plan for Gaza

- Why Hamas will only disarm under credible threat

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What will Israelis really be voting on in the first election since October 7?

Today we are launching Israel Votes, a new Call me Back and Ark Media series that will be your hub for unpacking the Israeli election. Ark Media contributors Amit Segal and Nadav Eyal join Dan to set the stage, exploring how October 7, the war, coalition politics, deep social divides, and the Netanyahu brand will all play a role in the upcoming vote, which many Israelis feel may determine the character and future of the Jewish state.

In this episode:

06:45 - Why this election feels different from every Israeli election before it

08:55 - Netanyahu’s coalition problem and the ultra-Orthodox question

11:55 - How October 7 changed the political map and voter psychology

16:40 - Is this election a referendum on the past or a vote about the future?

21:00 - What Israel’s demographic and political trends mean for the outcome

26:45 - The opposition’s strategy and the Bennett factor

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Bret Stephens argues that while organizations like the ADL do valuable work tracking and responding to antisemitic incidents, the Jewish community has overinvested in fighting antisemitism as a primary strategy.

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New York Times columnist Bret Stephens joins Dan on the members-only edition of Call me Back to take questions about his speech at 92nd Street Y and the public conversation it started. Should we really stop trying to fight Antisemitism? Should the ADL be “dismantled”? Can we define the psychology of Antisemitism? And what are the stories that define Judaism?

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Is the right way to fight Antisemitism maybe to… stop fighting it?

In this special episode, we share The State of World Jewry address delivered by New York Times columnist Bret Stephens at the 92nd Street Y. Stephens, who is also the editor-in-chief of SAPIR Journal, offers a bracing diagnosis of modern antisemitism and argues that it cannot be educated away, apologized for, or solved through allyship. Instead, he calls for Jewish confidence, cultural seriousness, and moral clarity in the face of rising hostility.

In this episode:

- Why antisemitism is about resentment, not misunderstanding

- The false promise of fighting antisemitism head-on

- The danger of approval-seeking and respectability politics

- October 8th Jews and the identity reckoning

- Jewish values as inherently countercultural

- Building strength instead of chasing acceptance

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Is there a deeper strategy underlying President Trump’s actions?

Dan is joined by historian, Free Press columnist, CBS contributor, and Senior Fellow at Hoover Institution Sir Niall Ferguson to connect the dots on how President Trump is using leverage, unpredictability, and selective force across Iran, Venezuela, Europe, and beyond. They discuss why a counter revolution in Iran has little chance without foreign intervention, what “regime alteration” means, whether we're still living through Cold War II, and why Europe keeps taking the bait.

In this episode…

- Iran strike timing, targets, and endgame

- “Regime alteration” vs. regime change

- Why Iran’s protests failed and fear works

- Turkey’s mediation and Erdoğan’s ambitions

- Saudi pressure and regional deterrence logic

- Cold War II and the authoritarian axis

- Davos, Europe’s weakness, and the Greenland distraction

- MAGA tensions, Israel, deterrence, and Taiwan

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- Niall Ferguson’s essay in the Free Press, “The Myth of Revolution in Iran”

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