Kevin Cochrane sits down with Patrick Eden, CEO and co-founder of Palma AI.

Patrick has seen an infrastructure shift like this before. Before Palma, he co-founded Replex during the early rise of Kubernetes, and now he sees a similar moment unfolding around MCP and AI agents.

The conversation digs into what happens when agents move beyond answering questions and start accessing the real systems businesses run on. Patrick and Kevin break down permissions, zero-trust governance, enterprise adoption, European data sovereignty, and why giving AI more power only works if companies know exactly what that AI is allowed to do.

They also get into the parallels between MCP and Kubernetes, the realities of building for large enterprises, why “move fast and break things” doesn’t always work, and whether the bigger enterprise AI problem is hallucinations… or permissions.

The Agent(X) Podcast is sponsored by Vultr.

From the show floor at the RAI in Amsterdam, Kevin Cochrane sits down with Manik Surtani, CTO and co-founder of the Agentic AI Foundation, for a conversation about what it will take to make the agentic future actually work.

Manik spent more than a decade at Block and collaborated with Google on the launch of gRPC, technology that helps software systems communicate at scale. Today, he’s focused on a similar challenge for AI: creating open standards that allow agents built by different companies to connect, communicate, and work together.

Kevin and Manik explore the infrastructure behind agentic AI, why interoperability matters, the role of open source, and what needs to happen before AI agents can operate seamlessly across tools, platforms, and organizations.

Recorded live at the RAI Amsterdam.

The Agent(X) Podcast is sponsored by Vultr.

Coming to you from AGNTCon + MCPCon Europe in Amsterdam, Vultr CMO Kevin Cochrane sits down with Chris Aniszczyk, CTO of the Cloud Native Computing Foundation (CNCF).

From leading Twitter's open-source program to helping build CNCF, Chris has spent his career bringing developers and competing companies together. Kevin and Chris explore the importance of open collaboration, and what the cloud-native revolution can teach us about building the next generation of AI infrastructure.