Episode 9: Patrick Eden, AGNTCon + MCPCon Europe
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Kevin Cochrane sits down with Patrick Eden, CEO and co-founder of Palma AI.
Patrick has seen an infrastructure shift like this before. Before Palma, he co-founded Replex during the early rise of Kubernetes, and now he sees a similar moment unfolding around MCP and AI agents.
The conversation digs into what happens when agents move beyond answering questions and start accessing the real systems businesses run on. Patrick and Kevin break down permissions, zero-trust governance, enterprise adoption, European data sovereignty, and why giving AI more power only works if companies know exactly what that AI is allowed to do.
They also get into the parallels between MCP and Kubernetes, the realities of building for large enterprises, why “move fast and break things” doesn’t always work, and whether the bigger enterprise AI problem is hallucinations… or permissions.
The Agent(X) Podcast is sponsored by Vultr.