After surviving cancer twice, he discovered the one question that can wake up any man who feels stuck—and most men never ask it.

What would you do if life hit you with cancer… not once, but twice?

Most people would shut down. Most would ask, “Why me?”
But today’s guest, Savio Clemente, asked a very different—and far more powerful—question:

“Did I live the life I was meant to live… and what do I do now?”

In this deeply honest and thought-provoking conversation, Savio shares how facing two life-threatening diagnoses didn’t break him—it transformed him. What followed wasn’t just recovery… it was a complete reimagining of how to live, how to find meaning, and how to move forward with purpose.

But this episode isn’t just about cancer.

It’s about something far more relevant to many men in their 60s and beyond:
👉 drifting
👉 losing direction
👉 and quietly wondering if the best years are already behind them

We tackle the real questions:

• How do you find purpose when there’s no crisis forcing you to change?
• Why is joy the first thing you should focus on—not legacy?
• What does it actually mean to “take inventory” of your life?
• And how do you let go of regret before it defines your future?

Savio also shares powerful insights on resilience, identity, and what he calls “adaptive resilience”—the ability not just to bounce back, but to evolve.

If you’ve ever felt stuck, restless, or unsure what comes next…
this conversation might hit closer to home than you expect.

Connect with Savio Clemente:

• Website: https://www.saviopclemente.com/
  
  
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/saviopclemente/
  
  
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thehumanresolve
  
  

🔗 Connect with Norman:

• Website: https://againstthenorm.net
  
  

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In this episode of Against the Norm, Norman Calvo sits down with fellow Princeton grad Andrew “Andy” Oser—a man who’s lived an unmistakably “against the norm” life.

After founding a nonprofit that served over 50,000 inner-city youth in Washington, D.C. through tennis and wellness programs, Andy has spent the last two decades guiding spiritual retreats at sacred sites on Mount Shasta.

This conversation is for anyone—especially men in their 60s and 70s—who has spent a lifetime playing the “outer game” and is now asking: What’s next?

We talk about:

• Outside-in vs. inside-out living
• Why striving can become a trap (even when you “win”)
• How tennis taught Andy a radically different way to live (The Inner Game of Tennis)
• Using breaks (like in tennis) to reset your nervous system during the day
• Why nature helps us access the “real self” more quickly
• Authenticity, purpose, and the surprising power of gratitude

Links & resources:

Resources mentioned

• The Inner Game of Tennis — Timothy Gallwey
• The Inner Game of Work — Timothy Gallwey
• Thich Nhat Hanh (using your phone as a “mindfulness bell”)
• Meister Eckhart (attributed): “Gratitude is the only prayer you need.”

Links:

https://mountshastaretreat.net/about/

https://www.facebook.com/andrew.oser1

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What does it actually take for a man in his 60s or 70s to get fitter—especially if he hasn’t worked out in decades?

In this episode of Against the Norm, Norman Calvo sits down with his personal trainer and strength coach Brandon Chu (Liv Method, Manhattan), who shares a refreshingly real roadmap for older men: start smaller than you think, build consistency first, and use accountability to make it stick.

You’ll hear:

• Why most men don’t change until a doctor or scare forces it
• The “momentum” approach: tiny steps that actually lead somewhere
• Why gyms feel intimidating—and how to lower the barrier to entry
• The simple truth about muscle loss, bone density, strength training, and protein as we age
• The mindset shift Brandon calls “chosen suffering”: pick the discomfort now, or pay for it later

This one is practical, funny, and motivating—especially if you’re thinking, “I should really start… but I don’t know how.”

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In this first full episode of Against the Norm, host Norman Calvo sits down with Ron Drotos—acclaimed pianist, musical director, and Norman’s collaborator on his one-man cabaret show—to talk about something most adults struggle with: starting something new without letting fear, perfectionism, or past mistakes stop us.

Ron shares powerful insights from decades of teaching musicians, singers, and performers of all levels—including stories from Carnegie Hall, Broadway, and his long-running cabaret workshops in Fairbanks, Alaska. Together, Norman and Ron explore why adults become so afraid of making mistakes, how early experiences can shape lifelong insecurities, and why learning anything new—singing, piano, fitness, or even a foreign language—is really about building new neural pathways, not instant success.

This conversation reframes learning as a joyful, process-driven experience rather than a performance test. Ron explains why progress is rarely linear, why perfection is a modern illusion, and how community, consistency, and curiosity matter far more than talent. Norman also shares personal stories from his own journey into singing and performance later in life—and how doing something creative at 70 has been one of the most energizing experiences of his life.

If you’ve ever thought “I’m too old,” “I’m not good at this,” or “I don’t want to embarrass myself,” this episode is a reminder that growth doesn’t come from staying on the path—it comes from going a little further than feels comfortable.

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A short introduction to Against the Norm—a podcast for people who aren’t done yet and are ready to create a bold, energized next chapter in their life.

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